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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:07 PM Original message |
A modest proposal re-post. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. That would probably be Constitutional, but proposing it would be politically stupid, and... |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Thank you. It did pass in 1934, probably in response to the |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Someone in another thread referred to the NFA as a line in the sand, and I think that's accurate |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. The proposal wasn't a serious one. It was meant to be a launch point |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. No one claims that. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. A wonderful idea. There, I finished your subject sentence for you. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Ask yourself "why" it's political suicide... |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yeah, like they did in the '50s & '60s when a majority wanted |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The courts dictated that even a majority cannot violate civil rights. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Political suicide. Ok, so the politicians do what's right, then |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
30. So you would be willing to give up.... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. It will never pass. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. If you don't have money, you don't deserve effective self defense! |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Well, that's what the congress did in 1934. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yes. Heller- "in common use, for traditionally lawful purposes" |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. If congress can regulate a specific subset of firearms can it not |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Precedent changes. |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Thank you for the constructive criticism. Living with a legal professional for |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, but it does set a high bar, if in dicta not in practice yet.. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. There are limations to the extent of which congress can regulate firearms. |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
12. So only rich people get to be armed? |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No, only the rich could afford a full auto in 1934. They still had access |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. But if there is a $200/weapon/year tax that means only the richest can afford it |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I think you misunderstood the machine gun tax. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Just because it was done in the past does not make it legal. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Gun control means keeping "those people" from owning firearms. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
18. Hicap mags are not serialized and are very widespread. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. Define "high capacity magazines", first of all. |
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shadowrider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Anything over 1 n/t |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. Also, what would be your justification of a $4000 excise tax? |
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flamin lib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. It always comes down to this, doesn't it? |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. So you think it's OK to place arbitray dollar amounts on actions to effect a ban in-actuality? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-25-11 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
31. The NFA tax is, in my view, clearly unConstitutional. |
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Remmah2 (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-26-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. Bad proposal. |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. It would be challenged in the Supreme Court |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. OK, so where's the downside? NT |
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kudzu22 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Well, I inferred that the OP liked the NFA/Hughes as is |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. AAAAHHHHHHH Now I get it. NT |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-27-11 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. How do you define a high-capacity magazine? |
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