Mississippi Senate Committee to Consider NRA-Backed Right-to-Carry Reform Next Week!

[shadowrider]

Thursday, January 20, 2011


Next week, the Senate Judiciary A Committee will consider Senate Bill 2469, a comprehensive bill by state Senator Joey Fillingane (R-Sumrall), that would reverse or roll back many of the restrictions on where concealed pistol permit holders can lawfully carry.

Please contact members of the committee at their capitol offices early next week and urge them to support SB 2469. A list of committee members and their contact information can be found at http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/.

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6134

Summary of Mississippi Senate Bill 2469 By Sen. Joey Fillingane (R-Sumrall)

Currently, Mississippi’s concealed carry law -- with its blanket prohibitions on
carrying in select locations -- creates “defenseless” zones for law-abiding
citizens. The goal of this bill is to allow permit holders to lawfully protect
themselves in UNSECURED areas of public buildings, and in privately-owned
establishments IF the owner or controller of the property has not posted the
area off-limits.


Allows permit holders to carry in unsecured areas of courthouses, but retains
ban on carrying in courtrooms. “Secured areas” are defined as areas to which
access is restricted or limited by the use of metal detectors or security personnel
conducting individual screening.


Clarifies that carrying at actual meetings of governing bodies is prohibited.
Language in current law could put entire governmental buildings off-limits
because city council or county commission meetings are held there, and the ban
could apply even when these meetings are not taking place.


Retains ban on carrying at any school, college or professional athletic event.


Eliminates statutory prohibition on carrying in portions of establishments
licensed to dispense liquor or beer & wine, and allows each individual property
owner to choose whether to ban such activity. Owner or controller of the
establishment could enforce a ban by posting the area off-limits to all permit
holders, but they could also authorize employees or vendors who are licensed
to be able to carry on the property.


Leaves ban in place on carrying at elementary or secondary schools.


Removes ban on carrying in unsecured areas of junior college, community
college or university buildings, but retains ban at athletic events on campus
and allows establishments serving alcohol on campus to post their bar area offlimits
to permit holders.


Clarifies that the ban on carrying by permit holders at airports applies to the
secure area of the terminal and not the publicly-accessible check-in area.


Eliminates the statutory prohibition on carrying by permit holders in
churches or other places of worship and allows each individual religious
institution to choose whether to ban such activity. Controllers of the property
could enforce a ban through posting, but could also authorize church employees
who are licensed to be able to carry on the premises.


Removes ban on carrying at parades or demonstrations for which a permit is
required.


Clarifies that controllers of public or private buildings and locations not
mentioned in this subsection of the concealed carry law may still post their
areas off-limits to permit holders, but that prohibited areas may not extend to
parking facilities (unless an employer has a secure parking facility as described
in Section 45-9-55 of the Mississippi Code.)


Creates an exception for permit holders in unsecure buildings to the current
prohibition on carrying firearms on postsecondary educational property.

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/MS_SB2469.pdf

This doesn't go as far as I'd like it to, but a win is a win whether by 1 or 100.

[oneshooter]

1. Sounds to me like they want to emulate most of the Texas law. n/t

[Kennah]

5. Umm, no

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/chlfaqs.htm

Where can I not take my handgun?

Handguns and other weapons cannot be carried at schools or on school buses, at polling places, in courts and court offices, at race¬tracks, at secured airport areas, or within 1,000 feet of the premises of a facility carrying out an execution on the day of an execution. The law also specifically prohibits handguns from businesses where alcohol is sold, if more than half of their revenue is from the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption. Additionally, weapons are prohibited on locations where high school, college or professional sporting events are taking place. Furthermore, you may not carry handguns in hospitals or nursing homes, amusement parks, places of worship or at government meetings, if signs are posted prohibiting them. Businesses also may post signs prohibiting handguns on their premises based on criminal trespass laws.

[Kennah]

6. Washington probably scares the shit outta some

These are some things which are already the law here in Washington state.

Courthouses must provide for secure storage of a firearm for a Conceal Pistol License (CPL) holder, so one can legally carry to court. I know. I've done it. The deputies don't shit a brick.

CPL holders can carry where alcohol is sold, so long as the establishment is not off limits to those under 21. Restaurants that serve alcohol are OK, but not bars. However, some restaurants have lounge areas that are off limits to those under 21, but they are posted.

CPL holders can carry anywhere into any city, county or state government building--unless it's the secured area of law enforcement facility, the secured areas of a courthouse, or a prison.

Colleges and universities can established bans under the Washington Administrative Code (WAC), but I believe only the UW and Wazzu have said bans. Primary and secondary schools are OK for carry if one is picking up or dropping off a student, but one cannot carry into the actual building.

State law says NOTHING about carrying at airports so it's fine outside of the secured area. Yes, I've carried to Sea-Tac, outside the secured area, to pick up or drop off friends or family who were flying.

Churches are a private enterprise. If they post a sign banning anything or anyone, it's the power of trespass that kicks in--just like anywhere else.

There is the weirdest danged thing about gun bans, and it's in Washington. Go figure. A ban on carrying a gun at an "outdoor music festival". And, you have to get a license for an "outdoor music festival".

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=70.108

[lawodevolution]

2. we move the football down the field a little more, when are those slackers at the Brady campaign

going to put up a fight?

[HankyDubs]

3. you'll note here

that while Du gungeon posters wiggle and scream when I connect them to the anti-democratic, anti-librul NRA lobbyist cartel...

...they cheer and applaud the NRA...they refer to the NRA as "we."

Xdigger will also note the "association fallacy" in the original poster's sig, where he associates all gun control advocates with Mao, Hitler, etc.

[spin]

4. As a gungeon poster and a member of the NRA ...

you may have noted that I have recently been posting links to the Brady Campaign on the topic of states entering the names of people with disqualifying mental conditions to the NICS background check database. I support their efforts to get this important program updated in a more timely fashion.

The link I posted can be viewed at:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/backgroundchecks/nics

You can view how your state is doing at inputting this important information at this link from the Brady Campaign:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/Facts/2011-01-05_Overview_State_Records_of_Mental_Prohibitors.pdf

It takes some effort to find this data on their website. They currently appear concerned about banning high capacity magazines which would be characteristic of the useless "feel good" laws they usually advocate. I will support the Brady Campaign or any other group that has good ideas that will actually work to reduce gun violence.

While I am a member of the NRA, I would like to see gun violence in our nation reduced every bit as much as a member of the Brady Campaign. Of course, our approaches differ. I prefer to improve the gun laws we currently have and to actually enforce them. My solution is not to prohibit or ban firearms or parts of firearms but to find solutions that actually work.

Many of the other pro-RKBA posters in the Gungeon also believe in finding solutions that work which is why we oppose so many ideas proposed by the anti-RKBA posters.

[lawodevolution]

7. HankyDubs, the NRA is very moderate, Charlton Heston the NRA president who said "out of my cold dead

hands" marched with MLK and helped out Kennedy. He is also known for desegregation protests. After helping one group of people aquire their rights he helped another group keep their rights.

[krispos42]

8. The NRA generally has the facts down

Unfortunately, the people that run it like to stoke the fires of fear and the bulk of their money and influence goes to Repube candidates.

So, fuck'em.