Why a ban (or threat of a ban) on high capacity magazines is good for the magazine industry.

[lawodevolution]

This will not be the first magazine capacity limit at the federal level. Feds tried a 10 round magazine limit in the past. The purpose of this restriction was to reduce the availability of high cap magazines. Rather than reducing the rate of ownership of high cap magazines it caused in the end after the dust settled a massive proliferation of the ownership of high cap magazines which brought about the development of more types of high cap magazines. This time around gun owners are not hesitating and they are buying up all the high cap magazines they can get their hands on because of a fear, or worry that there will be another magazine capacity limit. In the end this new ban will be reversed or expired and the final result will be that rather than having 10% of gun owners with a few high cap magazines, half of gun owners will have stashes of high cap magazines. Every time gun control groups take action they help the gun industry sell more guns and accessories.

Things have changed since Clinton's assault weapon ban. Gun control caught Americans off guard as lies and deception were used at every step in the advancement of gun control, in other words naive people were tricked into restricting a civil liberty and were given no reduction in crime or increase in security for it. The pro gun movement has had time to fully develop and mature by now, and there will be strong opposition and rebellion to any further restriction. Mexico, a nation of very strong gun control with an effective ban on guns, has had dozens of political assassinations in recent times, yet they have in place much stronger restrictions than a magazine capacity limit.

The final effect that this ban will have is a massive proliferation in the interest in high cap magazines and diversity of brands and types, and a proliferation in manufacturing capacity. Many states have enacted legislation that will supersede federal regulation of products that are manufactured and purchased only in the state. This will result in high capacity manufacturing being established in each of these states. So the ban will not stop high cap magazine enthusiasts from buying them and once the ban is lifted or expires there will be so much extra high cap magazine manufacturing capacity that prices will drop and proliferation will reach all time levels that would otherwise not be possible.

Before the AWB only odd individual owned battle rifles (what some call assault rifles) now the "assault rifles" are some of the most popular types of gun.

Should we ban high capacity magazines? Are high cap magazines necessary?
The real question you should be asking is should we provoke Americans into making the high cap magazine industry into a success story.

[villager]

1. ah, the usual bullying threats of "don't provoke me! Or else!"

n/t

[lawodevolution]

2. I'm informing you of what your attempted ban on high cap magazines will result in

You can ignore it if you want

[friendly_iconoclast]

6. "I don't like what you said" isn't the same as "What you said is untrue."

In your own words, what (if anything) is false in the OP?

[Kolesar]

9. False, maybe--hyperbole, definitely!! eom

[X_Digger]

3. Sales of AR-15's before and during the 'ban'..

Lather, rinse, repeat..

[PoliticAverse]

4. How long before dealers start advertising mentioning a possible ban?

With a "stock up while you can" message ?

[ProgressiveProfessor]

12. Don't have to, the run has already begun

[PoliticAverse]

14. "Glock Pistol Sales-Surge in Aftermath of Shooting of Arizona's Giffords"

Yeesh.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-01-11/glock-pistol-sales-surge-in-aftermath-of-shooting-of-arizona-s-giffords.html

[Kolesar]

5. I thought that guns &ammo were already selling frantically because Obama is a gun-grabber

At least that what the asshole gun owners I heard were telling me.

[friendly_iconoclast]

7. They were, until recently. So why repeat the process with magazines?

I swear, some people simply cannot grasp the meaning of 'counterproductive'...

[Kolesar]

8. Same thing

Mr. Parser

[ProgressiveProfessor]

11. It had started to taper of and ammunitions had become more plentiful

Else here I saw a post where very high capacity mags were selling out just about everywhere.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

10. I don't think you have cause and effect

The trend towards 5.56mm military style fire arms was well underway prior to the ill conceived AWB. Many vets have never fired anything else. With or without the AWB, the AR-15 style weapons were going to predominate, at least in terms of new manufacture. What it did slow down was the proliferation of cheaper AK style firearms in 7.62*39 since there was little to no domestic manufacturers involved.

[lawodevolution]

17. The run on "assault weapons" would have started long before the AWB was passed because they were

Discussing it openly like they are now discussing a magazine capacity limit.

[damntexdem]

13. Make the production or import of the magazines illegal except for licensed production/import.

Restrict the licenses to military and police purchases.

And institute long prison sentences for possession of high-cap magazines.

This "we can't stop persons for acquiring assault weapons" is total crap -- it only takes the will to do so. The problem is that American politicians lack that will.

Meanwhile, the NRA goes on killing America.

[friendly_iconoclast]

15. You'd like to confiscate the property of millions of gun owners with the threat of prison...

...if they don't comply? Oh, that'll go over real well:


"We'd like to criminalize your previously legal behavior. We call it the Locking The Barn Door After The Horse Ran Off Act.


Please ignore the implication that you're a terrorist-in-training and remember to vote Democratic!"

[lawodevolution]

16. You did not read my post so I will explain this again

Many states have passed legislation that states that firearms or their accessories manufactured and sold in the same state will not be effected by any law passed by the Feds. If they pass a bill banning high cap mags or glocks or "assault weapons" they will simply build the factories in each state which will probably cause an explosion in manufacturing capacity and reduction in prices and further proliferation that would not have occurred if the fascists had just kept their mouths shut about banning guns and magazines. Even if they ban high capacity magazines at the federal level here in Texas I will still be free to buy those magazines.