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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 09:56 PM
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Man arrested for open carry at Wall Mart


A customer expecting to see great deals waved down authorities after she saw something else: a man packing a gun while waiting in line at a Black Friday sale.
Police arrested Christopher D. Scott, 49, as he was waiting in a checkout line at a Wal-Mart in Boynton Beach on Friday.
Officers were on patrol at the store at 3200 Old Boynton Rd., due to the large Thanksgiving night crowd seeking early bargains.
Scott is charged with two counts of carrying a concealed firearm and three counts each of carrying a prohibited weapon and possession of a controlled substance without a prescription

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/27/1945068/man-accused-of-packing-gun-at.html#ixzz16jMH4Nrv

He was open carry in Florida!
Best reason I know of to make sure you are legal in other states.

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:04 PM
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1. Did he have a shotgun . You can't take down a Walmart without a shotgun?
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Sonoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:06 PM
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2. Not his first rodeo...
From article.

"In court on Friday, prosecutors told Palm Beach Circuit Judge Krista Marx that Scott had five previous arrests for a misdemeanor and four felonies."

I say the guy is an idiot and we would all be better off if he was far, far away.

That is my problem with open carry. Even though I am always ready, I think there are plenty of folks out there who should have their thumbs cut off.

Sonoman
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:14 AM
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6. If you'll read further, you'll see that was an error. He's retired DOJ law enforcement.
"In court on Friday, prosecutors told Palm Beach Circuit Judge Krista Marx that Scott had five previous arrests for a misdemeanor and four felonies. Scott leaned to Assistant Public Defender Juan Fernandez-Barquin and revealed he was retired from law enforcement positions with both the U.S. Department of Interior and the Department of Justice. Scott then said he'd been a victim of identity theft. Assistant State Attorney Rob Melchiorre said he checked the man's claims and the arrest record was in fact for a different person."

The guy is a retired cop who had the proper permits to carry in Arizona. His arsenal seems a bit over the top, and his only problem seems to be a serious misunderstanding of Florida's reciprocity laws. His permit would have been good in Florida if he'd been doing concealed carry, but he was trying to open carry in a state that doesn't permit it.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 03:37 AM
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8. If he's retired law enforcement, he doesn't need a permit anywhere
Under the Law Enforcement Officers' Safety Act of 2004, he should be able to carry in every state, provided he has a photo ID issued by his former agency. Yes, that doesn't allow you to carry openly in Florida, but as the article says, if he was carrying openly, how could they charge him with carrying concealed? This is a pretty confused story.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:39 PM
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12. I wonder ...
... if they arrested him, and when they had a media circus on their hands and realized he was a cop, they made the charges unlawful concealed carry. Provides for the charges being dismissed "on technical grounds".
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 04:00 PM
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15. Isn't that nice ?
Does he get to vote twice as well ?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:09 PM
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3. A bit over the top IMHO.
"Police said Scott wore a .40-caliber Glock handgun with a 30-round magazine in a holster at his hip, as well as two concealed knives and a ``pepper grenade.''"
And I thought my 17 round mag was a lot.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:17 PM
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4. Well, if you're going to carry a spare, you might as well make it a big one
If the situation is such that you've emptied the gun and you're still in trouble, you're in a shitload of trouble! As in, "John McClane during Christmas" trouble.


This is especially true with a doublestack magazine.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 09:25 AM
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10. I keep an 11 round 1911 mag (.45acp) and 30 round gock mag (9mm) in my glovebox.
No matter what I'm carrying that day, if I need a spare mag... I want it to be big.

I'd own an FN FiveseveN if the ammo prices weren't obscene for a trumped up 22magnum.
It has a reasonably sized 30rnd mag that isn't 10 inches long.

Ever shot 30+ rounds out of a pistol? I shoot 32 and 50 round 9mm mags occasionally.
About halfway through you think, "Damn this alot of bullets, LOL!"

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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 12:34 PM
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17. you start out fast, then get slower and slower...
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 10:20 PM
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5. Boy do I feel inadequate. I only have 8 in my officers ACP with one
Edited on Mon Nov-29-10 10:20 PM by Bold Lib
8 round spare magazine. I do keep a small can of Counter Assault pepper spray though.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:51 AM
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7. The perfect reason why laws about fundamental Constitutional Rights....
need to be identical from coast to coast.

50 different sets of laws for each Civil Right is fucking retarded.
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cantonjaston Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 08:36 AM
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9. While I generally agree
It's not too difficult to research if a state is open carry or not before you walk around with gun(s) on your hip. He's a dumbass, but one with no criminal intent, apart from dumbassery apparently. The prosecutor may take that into account hopefully.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:52 PM
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11. It can actually be more difficult than you think...
due to differences between law and practice.

For instance, Mass. is technically an open carry state (with licence), but if you try it, better have bail money handy.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 07:45 PM
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13. Reality: He probably had two 15 round spare mags
Glock .40 mags hold 13 rounds (Glock 23), 15 rounds (Glock 22), or two more if one uses Plus Twos.

Scherer .40 mags hold 29 rounds, but I really can't imagine someone carrying one of those. Maybe, but I'm skeptical.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 03:59 PM
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14. I have several 30 round mags for my glock that I take to the range with me.
I can easily switch between my 26 or 17 without having to reload so damn much.

Also for my 26, with the extra weight of the mag, it will reduce recoil a bit. I only use it for slow shooting.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-10 05:56 PM
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16. Everything I read leads me to believe this tactical dumbass
was carrying with a 30 round mag in his Glock.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:52 PM
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18. The moral is don't open carry or flash your concealed firearm in public in Florida ...
Florida Law enforcement is used to and has no problem with concealed carry.

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