Congress May Vote On D.C. Gun Ban Repeal Next Week

[GreenStormCloud]

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5738

Congress May Vote On D.C. Gun Ban Repeal Next Week

Friday, April 16, 2010

News reports indicate that the U.S. House of Representatives may consider legislation next week to which an amendment reforming Washington, D.C.’s restrictive gun laws would likely be offered. The bill—H.R. 157, the District of Columbia Voting Rights Act, introduced by the District’s anti-gun delegate, Eleanor Holmes Norton—proposes that the city be authorized a vote in the United States House of Representatives.

NRA members recall that last year, a similar “D.C. House Voting Rights Act” bill—S. 160, introduced by Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.)—passed in the Senate after adoption of Sen. John Ensign’s (R-Nev.) amendment restoring the Second Amendment rights of residents of our nation’s capital. Supporters of H.R. 157 did not pursue it at that time, however, to perpetuate gun control in D.C.

NRA members are urged to check the www.nraila.org website on a daily basis next week, for information concerning the status of H.R. 157 and any amendment that is offered to deal with the District’s gun laws. And, you are encouraged to be ready to contact your U.S. Representatives to ask that they support any such amendment that is proposed.

A big gain for civil rights in DC. They get a vote and the right to have guns in the same bill.

[baldguy]

1. Another big argument for DC home rule.

[SteveM]

37. Certainly is. The 14th as well as the 5th could be used...

to secure full 2nd rights for D.C. residents.

[baldguy]

40. Home rule would mean the citizens of DC would get to decide the laws of DC.

A minority of radical RW Republican extremists (along with a few turncoat DINOs) imposing the values of the mythical Wild West on the city in opposition to the wishes of the people there makes a mockery of the idea of rights.

[friendly_iconoclast]

41. Just like the people of Nebraska decided to restrict abortions.

In defiance of those trying to impose the values of Roe Vs. Wade on the state, in opposition to the wishes of the
people there...

If it's good for DC, it's good for Nebraska, amirite?

[jazzhound]

42. "a few turncoat dinos"

Your ilk shows their colors at every turn, don't they?

I'd venture to guess that most pro gun rights folks who post here were gun owners before they became politically committed --- so your "turncoat" pejorative is silly. As your comments always are.

[bluestateguy]

2. Obama will sign it too

And along with signing the Wicker Amendment, and Coburn Amendment it will be yet more evidence that Obama is not only not going to take away your guns, but rather, he has actually repealed gun restrictions already on the books.

[tburnsten]

7. Yeah, so far I've got to say

the bulk of what I've been able to keep up with has all been positive, I think he is a politician who finally understands that when you represent a district, you represent the interests of that district, and when you move up and broaden your responsibilities, you have to adjust your stance on different issues to continue serving the best interests of your constituents.


I have to say I have been very pleasantly surprised with his methodology, he is truly shaping up to be one of our most pragmatic and outstanding presidents yet.

[GreenStormCloud]

23. He will sign, but only because it is attached to another bill that he wants.

Let's face it. A vote in Congress for DC is a really big deal, and very long overdue. To get that, he is willing to accept guns in DC.

But Obama did not originate nor did he push the rider.

[BunkerHill24]

3. I've said it before and I'll say it again.....

The 2nd amendment is murderer in disguise.

[X_Digger]

4. I've said it before, and I'll say it again....

repeating something doesn't make it true.

Okay, I've never really said that.. well, now I have.

[BunkerHill24]

5. Your signature line says it all...

I will never buy an opinion from you, either.

[dashrif]

19. speak of sig line

I like Frederick Douglass too one of my favorites of his “Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.”

[Callisto32]

26. He also said...

"I didn't know I was a slave, until I found I couldn't do the things I wanted."

And here you are, pushing for prohibition.

I'm sure Mr. Douglass would be proud.

[dashrif]

32. not I

[Callisto32]

33. Sorry.

I hit "reply" on the wrong post.

[dashrif]

36. No

problem :toast:

[jazzhound]

21. I see your sig line references tyrants. So try this one on:

"When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
Thomas Jefferson

[jazzhound]

6. Well, if you're going to say it again, why not say it clearly.

How 'bout "amending" murderer to murder?

[BunkerHill24]

8. How about giving up "killings" with guns?

[Pavulon]

16. Hey, I could go take a drive. Few beers, I smash a 2500 suburban into

your drivers door you going to die. Or I could sit here and post on the stupidity of gun control.

Should we ban beers because some people can seem to not drive and kill drunk.

[jazzhound]

20. How 'bout trying to control yellow fever by going after mosquitos?

".........And there is a sense in which violence is a public health problem. So let me illustrate the limitations of this line of reasoning with a public-health analogy. After research disclosed that mosquitos were the vector for transmission of yellow fever, the disease was not controlled by sending men in white coats to the swamps to remove the mouth parts from all the insects they could find. The only sensible, efficient way to stop the biting was to attack the environment where the mosquitos bred.
Guns are the mouth parts of the violence epidemic. The contemporary urban environment breeds violence no less than swamps breed mosquitos. Attempting to control the problem of violence by trying to disarm the perpetrators is as hopeless as trying to contain yellow fever through mandible control."
Criminologist James Wright

[Callisto32]

27. I once read an article, comparing human social structure with that of rats.

We are, apparently, not so dissimilar as it would seem.

Rats do this thing where if they have a low population density, they basically get along. Sure, they have a scuffle here an there, but mostly peaceful. If you increase the density, they get mean as hell, fighting all the time, becoming hyper-vigilant, bickering and harming each other over resources. Then if you push the population even higher, they get complacent, like they know there just isn't enough to go around and they are just happy to survive.

It got me thinking.

The funny thing about humans is that we regulate our own population density by migration, and we seem (at least in the U.S.) to make cities where we are always in that middle zone....

[GreenStormCloud]

24. Because criminals won't, so I have guns to defend myself if crime comes my way. N/T

[PavePusher]

9. Self-defense is murder?

Huh, who knew. Thank goodness you're here to enlighten us...

[BunkerHill24]

11. I thought you knew?

...but you only know how to shoot whilst you PULL the trigger, right?

[jazzhound]

22. Sadly for your argument re. "pulling triggers"

in over 90% of defensive gun uses a trigger isn't pulled.

[Callisto32]

28. If you're pulling a trigger...

you're doing it wrong.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

31. LOL.

[Callisto32]

34. I'm glad SOMEBODY got it.

:toast:

[sharesunited]

13. Or the woeful misinterpretation of the 2A. No amendment required. Just an enlightened judiciary.

[Pavulon]

14. Never gonna happen. Find a new cause

this one is done. Gun control as a movement is done here.

[cowman]

17. Misinterpreted

according to who? You? I think the SCOTUS knows a little bit more about Constitutional law than you. Oh thats right, you live in Chicago, where all citizens are allowed to own guns:sarcasm: :rofl:

[Callisto32]

29. We should all be subject to the whims of 9 in dresses somewhere in a land far-far-away.

They know what's best.

[Callisto32]

25. HUH?

A murderer?

You know you have to sentient to commit murder, right?

[slackmaster]

35. Your position is an appeal to emotion, just like that of the anti-abortion extremists

You are cut from the same cloth.

[SteveM]

38. I've said it before and I'll say it again...

The 2nd Amendment keeps murderers despised.

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[Pavulon]

15. Having guns near you makes you less safe?

dont take to much straw with you when you sink.

[onehandle]

18. Really? I hadn't heard that.

Thanks for the footnote.

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[SteveM]

39. Still fighting a culture war? You know what culture war is founded on...

hatred of another class of people. (But here's a helpful footnote: "Liberals" often transmogrify bigotry into a defensible display of "passion.")

[PavePusher]

12. Are they going to Amend the Constitution?

Or just make stuff up as they go along?

[Pullo]

43. Down in flames

No deal.

Democrats have ditched plans to bring a District of Columbia voting rights bill to the House floor, a major setback in the long-running effort to give the nation's capital full representation in Congress.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) suggested that unrelated issues — such as gun rights provisions – sidelined D.C. voting bill. Hoyer had originally hoped to bring the bill to the floor this week, but now believes the legislation may be dead for the year.

Hoyer made the decision with Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), the non-voting representative of the District, who was uncomfortable with the gun legislation that was being attached to the bill, a Democratic aide said.

Norton said the bill would not have made it through the Senate anyway because the gun-related amendment would have allowed wide open gun ownership in D.C.

Norton said gun provisions – which she said were drafted by the National Rifle Association – would “surely bring down the support we have had of anti-gun Democratic Senators.”

It is a personal defeat for Hoyer, who has long championed the legislation, and for D.C., whose 600,000 citizens do not have a full voting representative in Congress. Hoyer, on several occasions, said he is “profoundly disappointed” that the legislation will not be brought up and added that he personally wrote the statement he delivered to reporters Tuesday morning.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36084.html#ixzz0lfI6r2Rd

[friendly_iconoclast]

44. Looks like the 'friends' of DC in the Senate don't dig the Second Amendment

Or at least would have it appear to be so...