GUNS IN THE NEWS--December 23, 2003

[MrBenchley]

As CO Liberal sez:
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[MrBenchley]

1. Man Allegedly Shoots Teen During Altercation (TX)

"A teenager was killed in a southwest Houston apartment complex parking lot Tuesday.
Officials told News2Houston Kuniyoshi Fontenot, 17, and his girlfriend turned into the Braeswood Oaks Apartments' parking lot in the 10500 block of Fondren Tuesday morning around 11:45 a.m.
The teen reportedly became involved in an argument with another man.
Witnesses told officials that is when the man took out a gun and shot Fontenot three times. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031223/lo_kprc/1930728

[MrBenchley]

2. Man Found Shot To Death Inside Car (OH)

"A man was found shot to death inside his car on a local street early Tuesday.
Nicholas Miller, 36, of Burlington, Ky., was found with a gunshot wound in the 2100 block of Millvale Court at about 2:45 a.m., WLWT Eyewitness News 5 reported.
Miller was taken to University Hospital, where he was pronounced dead.
Police said several shots were fired in the area where Miller's body was found. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031223/lo_wlwt/1930663

[MrBenchley]

3. Man Accused Of Shooting Ex-Wife (PA)

"Police in Lower Paxton Township, Dauphin County are looking for a man accused of shooting his ex-wife Tuesday morning.
Police said the woman was driving a car on the 6100 block of Springford Drive when several shots were fired at the car around 6:30 a.m. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031223/lo_wgal/1931090

[MrBenchley]

4. Explosion Burns 40 Percent Of Man's Body (TX)

Just a holiday reminder that gun nuts can endanger an entire neighborhood...

"A northwest Harris County man was badly burned in an explosion at his home in the 14900 block of Wunderlich Monday night.
Fire crews responded to calls from neighbors a little after 7 p.m.
Neighborhood residents told officials they heard a loud sound, causing windows down the street to rattle.
Firefighters said the man's head, arms, chest and hands were all burned in the explosion.
Officials believe the man was handling gunpowder. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=320&ncid=320&e=2&u=/ibsys/20031223/lo_kprc/1931150

[demsrule4life]

7. Just a holiday reminder that gun nuts can endanger an entire neighborhood

Perfect example of adding something to a story that isnt there.

[MrBenchley]

9. Cry me a river, dems

Excuse the fuck out of me for thinking his neighbors might not enjoy the fireworks....and would have enjoyed it even less if the fire had spread to their homes.

Maybe you can find a Bob Novak story to add here.

[demsrule4life]

10. And maybe you can show me where the gun is

[CO Liberal]

13. Where There's Gunpowder, There's Usually a Gun

Right?

[demsrule4life]

16. But where is the gun

this is guns in the news thread. Your rules. He could collect gun powders, he could be a bomb maker and yes he could be a reloader. But there is no gun in the story. If the pro gun folks have to play by your rules than make the anti gun folks also.

[CO Liberal]

17. The Article Stated.......

....that the ATF was investigating. We'll see how this story develops.

BTW, these threadsa re for "gun-related" stories. I believe that gunpowder is related to guns, so MrBenchley's story belongs here, IMHO.

[Withergyld]

18. Gun powder is for muzzle loaders

Smokeless Powder is for modern cartridge firearms. They are NOT the same. Load the wrong one and you will most likely blow up the firearm/shooter.

[CO Liberal]

19. I Still Say This is A Gun-Related Story

IMHO.

[Name removed]

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[MrBenchley]

22. Further research showed, dems

the explosion wedged the gun firmly up this dangerous dimwit's ass....

"Amazing," said Dr. U. R. Punkd of the Houston Medical Hospital, "You often hear about assholes with guns, but you rarely see this clear a case."

[MrBenchley]

21. Wow....

How desperately will the RKBA crowd spin?

[demsrule4life]

11. Police: Transient Killed Over Bottle Of Vodka

ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. -- A man was arrested over the weekend after police found him standing over the dead body of an acquaintance at a campsite frequented by transients

I'am sure there had to be a gun somewhere in that area.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/2719631/detail.html

[CO Liberal]

23. The Article Clearly States That A Hatchet Was Used

So this is definitely NOT a gun-related story.

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

24. Local News

Local news on this incident stated that the guy had a fireworks hobby. To make fireworks he was either using commercial black powder or mixing his own. Either way, doesn't sound a lot loke a gun story to me.

[CO Liberal]

25. Based On What They Said On Your Local News......

...I would tend to agree with you. It was unclear in the original story.

[MrBenchley]

5. Man Convicted In Ice Cream Parlor Shooting (HI)

"A jury convicted Shane Mark Monday of second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Honolulu police officer Glen Gaspar.
Mark had been charged with first-degree murder, but the jury convicted him of the lesser offense, the verdict carrying a mandatory life sentence with the possibility of parole.
Mark was also on trial for another shooting and the jury found him guilty of second-degree attempted assault for that incident as well. He stood motionless while the jury read its verdict. Gaspar's brother broke down when he heard the jury's decision."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031223/lo_kitv/1930575

[RoeBear]

8. Just a holiday reminder that...

...bad people will do bad things, even in states that have oppressive gun control laws.

[CO Liberal]

14. Just Another Holiday Reminder

What's oppressive to some is just right to others.

[MrBenchley]

6. Gunfire locks down Windsor Square (NC)

"MATTHEWS - Police locked down the Windsor Square shopping center, preventing customers from leaving for about 90 minutes Monday night, after a fugitive fired out the window of a nearby motel, authorities said.
The fugitive, identified as Jason Johnson, surrendered to U.S. marshals about 10:30 p.m. Nobody was hurt in the incident.
Authorities went to the Luxbury motel on U.S. 74 looking for Johnson, who is from Charlotte but was wanted on felony weapons charges in South Carolina. As members of the Hornet's Nest fugitive task force approached Johnson's room, he saw them and put a gun to his head, said U.S. Marshal Greg Forest.
As marshals were trying to convince Johnson to surrender, he fired a gun out the window of his room, toward the shopping center, Forest said. Nobody was hit by the bullet."

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/7554053.htm

[demsrule4life]

12. Columbus man jailed in skillet death

GREENSBURG, Ind. -- A man killed a woman in her sleep by beating her in the face with a kitchen skillet, police said.

He wanted to use a gun but the skillet was more fun.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/5/104958-5605-093.html

[hansberrym]

15. The only way to stop crimes such as this...

is to sue the maker of the offending skillet.

If only it had a safety.

If only it wasn't so heavy and so easy to hold. (assault-style grip is evil and should be banned)

Each time you swing that skillet it is a danger.

With little training that skillet can be converted to a full auto... frying pan!

[Moderator]

26. locking--it's a week old