More updates concerning "Texas Gun Shows" in Austin.

[SteveM]

Within the last 2 months, a controversy erupted when the owner of Texas Gun Shows" agreed to have all gun purchases run through FFL dealers at the show. The Texas State Rifle Association has made Freedom of Information requests, and these are pending. Texas Gun shows will now be at a new location. According to Alice Tripp, Legislative Director of TSRA:

"As of yesterday, January 30th, Darwin Boedeker and Texas Gun Shows have a new home in Austin. Their monthly gun show has relocated to an old Target building in South Austin, still within the Austin city limits. I emailed Texas Gun Shows and asked if the February show at the new location would allow private vendors selling firearms and allow walk-in sellers. I was told, 'it's business as usual for FFLs or private firearm sales.'"

Texas' nuisance abatement laws apply to cities only, and in that are "site" specific.
This is a new "site." Tripp's FOI request may shed light on the problem of requiring
individuals to go through a FFL dealer:

"Darwin Boedeker of Texas Gun Shows was not the focus of the Thursday, Jan. 14th, meeting. He was not threatened, coerced or intimidated by BATF or the APD. He agreed to allowing only FFL sales at his show, a policy more restrictive than federal or state law and which may not be legal or possible. An FFL must enter any commercial firearm transaction into his log and cannot remove that firearm without completing a NICS check. The FFL becomes a part of the transaction."

As originally intended, the NICS test was designed for FFL dealers, and not for individuals.
This seems like an end-run around the law, and would seem to expose an FFL dealer to BATFE problems,
as the firearm sold by an individual is now part of the "inventory" of the Dealer. In all, a good article,
though one must put up with Obama being "the most liberal president since FDR." Really? Could have fooled me,
but that's another matter. I will be at the next TGS to see what happens.

https://www.tsra.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=216:the-story-behind-the-gun-show-crises-in-austin&catid=55:tripp-talk&Itemid=113

[sharesunited]

1. Does the 2nd Amendment apply to commerce in guns and ammo?

Keep, bear, sell and purchase?

I like it whenever government erects obstacles to this "marketplace."

[SteveM]

2. No, and 1A doesn't apply to your computer and the internet, either.

Of course you like it when "government erects obstacles." But the courts look with disdain at government when it "erects obstacles" Laws must be clear with their intent, and not be a source of subterfuge, end-runs and de facto bans: That is corruption.

[sharesunited]

4. Are laws banning pornographic book stores an end-run around the 1A?

Sure. All it takes is the political will to apply the law in a helpful way.

[SteveM]

7. Actually, most porno bookstores are not banned. Your obsession with will ...

overcomes your fidelity to the constitution and the law.

Tell me, if a president outlawed all guns and ammunition by edict (without approval of the Congress, in defiance of the Supreme Court, in violation of the Constitution), would you support such an edict?

[sharesunited]

10. It would depend on whether I thought an emergency existed.

We are not there yet, but headed that way.

And there is an enormous difference between an edict banning guns outright and an administrative directive to the ATF for an orderly shutdown of retail commerce in new guns and ammo.

[SteveM]

22. So, it depends on what "I thought." I appreciate your concern about time...

between outright "bans" and gradual "shutdown of retail commerce."

It's that kind of slow bleed which keep 2A defenders (esp. those on the "right") hopped up against every Democrat in sight -- and disproves the notion that they are "paranoid."

[paulsby]

17. exactly

see: strict scrutiny

[oneshooter]

3. Then you must be a very unhappy person. n/t

[sharesunited]

5. Unhappy that gun love is getting away with such awful crap? You betcha.

[paulsby]

18. gun love canard

the idea that supporting/loving the RKBA = loving guns

does the support of choice mean one love's abortions?

of course not

fwiw, i bought a gun about 5 years ago

i've been a RKBA supporter for much longer

hth

[Don Caballero]

6. A marketplace of death

Why gun shows are allowed to operate unabated in the States is beyond me. I would like to see them heavily regulated to the point they are forced to shut down.

[SteveM]

8. Then, answer the question in Post #7 and clear things up.

[oneshooter]

9. I believe that he would.

That way he could call his friends in the Canadian and Mexican armies to come into the States.





And die.




Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas

[PavePusher]

11. It's these funny things called "freedom" and "rights".

You seem to not have a firm understanding of either.

[sharesunited]

12. Nonsense. The 2A is a counterfeit impediment to correct public policy.

Perpetuated solely by gun love and ammo amore.

[cowman]

13. I wish you could

travel back in time to talk to the Founding Fathers so they could laugh in your face

[sharesunited]

15. And I wish I could bring them to the present

to encourage them to go back and be clearer about whether all this death and injury is worthwhile.

[cowman]

14. Correct public

policy according to you but the vast majority of public don't agree no matter how many times you say it

[paulsby]

16. does the 1st amendment apply to commerce in books?

hth

[beevul]

20. No, not at all.../sarcasm

And the first amendment doesn't apply to commerce in ink to print newspapers, or to the usage by press of cameras... :sarcasm:

Do you actually think before you ask these questions?

[Hoopla Phil]

19. I wonder what will happen if (most likely when) the police decide

to put the squeeze on this location.

[SteveM]

21. Turns out the show was yesterday, and I couldn't make it...

This may depend on what the FOIs reveal. If it is strictly an action developing out of APD, maybe nothing more will be heard. If the action involves numerous parties -- elected officials, counsel from gun-control groups, etc. -- then perhaps another action will take place, but there will be a whole lot of controversy with the elected folks, and the bar to prove a "nuisance" will have to be raised a lot.

[Spoonman]

23. I'll bet you

the FFL dealers are putting pressure on the owner of the show.

If the transaction has to go through a licensed dealer, they get an average of $25 per transaction.
They may also feel that the private transactions are hurting their business.