Republican led Brady Campaign gets burned, by hot Starbuck's coffee...

[virginia mountainman]

Starbucks has brushed aside a request from a gun control advocacy group to ban the display of guns in its retail locations, saying it will abide by laws that allow patrons to openly carry unloaded weapons.

The national Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence made the request in the wake of a series of meetings in local restaurants over the past few months by Bay Area Open Carry, a group that hopes to make it legal to carry loaded guns in California. Peets Coffee & Tea and California Pizza Kitchen responded to similar requests by banning displays of weapons in the companies' coffeehouses and restaurants.

"Starbucks does not have a corporate policy regarding customers and weapons; we defer to federal, state and local laws and regulations regarding this issue," Starbucks' customer relations department said in response to the Brady Campaign's request.

The head of a local chapter of the Brady Campaign was disappointed by the response.

LOL!! The head of the local Brady bunch, "disappointed" again?? ROFLMAO! Get used to it..

Kudos go to the folks at Starbucks, for gently brushing the Bradites aside like a locomotive at full track speed does a car parked on a RR Crossing, and deferring to state law.

http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_14343847

[TPaine7]

1. Money Talks...

BS (or is that BC?) walks!

:rofl:

[Tim01]

2. Will go to Starbucks tomorrow to buy stuff.

And I will write them a letter of approval and loyalty.

[Skink]

3. Can I still bring my slingshot?

[Euromutt]

4. The most incredible part of this story is...

...that the Brady Campaign can muster a local chapter. I wonder how many members--excuse me, I mean supporters--it has.

Talk about backfiring, by the way: Starbucks apparently didn't have "a corporate policy regarding customers and weapons," but they do now. And it's not what the Brady Bunch wanted.

[pipoman]

5. I found a chapter pic

[SteveM]

13. Since the Brady Bunch is GOP-led, GOP-founded, it ain't uncivilized. nt

[Ter]

16. That's a bit unfair

In reality, the GOP wants nothing to do with them. It's like when Zell Miller called himself a Democrat.

[SteveM]

19. I see your point, but the GOP cries croccodile tears on this one...

they know full-well the only constituency (in elective office) which is sympathetic to the Bradys is Democrats. The Republicans can have it both ways: an organization which suckers the Democrats into supporting something grossly unpopular; yet quite plausible deniability. And the GOP doesn't have to spend a dime.

[virginia mountainman]

20. Brady, is singly responsible..

For many Democratic seats, being in Republican hands...

The Brady Campaign, as ineffective as they are in passing gun control, they are as effective, as mobilizing voters AGAINST the politicians that push their agenda..

Someone should sit down, and make a list, of the elections lost, primarily because of gun control, and make a "martyrs list" as a warning.

[michreject]

6. Letting the law set what is allowable or not

Who woulda thunk it.

[X_Digger]

7. Like I said in the other thread..

Brady poked a hornet's nest- again. This topic lit up gun boards all over the net.

People all over were writing personal letters and sending personal emails. Not adding their electronic signature to a form petition.

[virginia mountainman]

9. Your absolutely right..

They, PICKED this fight.....This was a non-issue, until Brady got envolved...

They, would have been better off by keeping their mouths shut...But alas..

They have yet to learn, that when THEY pontificate, WE win!

[slackmaster]

8. The Brady Campaign is a hate group

They want to deprive everyone who doesn't work for government the right to keep and bear arms.

[virginia mountainman]

10. Absolutly....nt

[Katya Mullethov]

11. Not everyone got the memo

http://www.examiner.com/x-25069-Cheyenne-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m2d6-Starbucks--Not-so-fast

[virginia mountainman]

12. I am getting ready to go out for the day...

I will stop by my local Starbucks, where I have a good relationship with the manager....I.E. he has seen me and my family in the store, MANY MANY TIMES. I will make him aware of my CCW status, for the first time, and explain why that "no guns" sign means for "our" business relationship.

Time to have a brief chat... So that they will be clear, of the very real implications of caving to Brady... Just in case, someone did not get the memo...

And to remind them that will be the ONLY coffee shop in the area with a "no gun" policy.

[X_Digger]

28. Update: Starbucks gets a thumbs-up in Wyoming

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-25069-Cheyenne-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m2d9-Starbucks-gets-a-thumbsup-in-Wyoming

Good news! Gun owners are welcome at the Casper Starbucks.

A Starbucks Representative contacted me and said "there has not been any policy change and Starbucks follows the laws of the state and municipalities they are located in"

They also said "this has been a misunderstanding and apologies go out to any customers this may have inconvenienced".

[Bold Lib]

32. Great news!!!

[SteveM]

14. When in Austin, get coffee at Bouldin Creek Cafe! Very tolerant of

hippies, punks, GLBT in full regalia, shit-kickers, different races, different nationalities, conservatives, even yuppies, and.... Goodness knows what else.

[Bold Lib]

15. It has been my experience that Starbucks is a very tolerant, open minded,

forward thinking organization. I am very glad to see this is true with ALL our civil rights.

[rrneck]

17. Cool.

Now if their coffee were only worth a shit...

[aikoaiko]

18. Wow. Even Starbucks won't fall for their fear mongering....

...the Brady Brunch may fold up one of these days.

[derby378]

21. Let Starbucks know you appreciate their stand

http://www.starbucks.com/customer/contact_forms.asp?nav=3f

[rrneck]

23. Done. Thanks for the link. nt

[Abq_Sarah]

22. Why is this any of the Brady campaigns business?

If Starbucks wants to prohibit firearms, they can post a prominent sign on the door and I can decide if I want to give them my business.

[-..__...]

24. "What we got here is... failure to communicate."... (update).

Wow... they jist don't git it.

They publicly admit that business owners have the right to bar certain activities/practices, but are unhappy when a business refuses
to adopt a policy that is an agenda of theirs...

Starbucks' Cop-Out to Gun Nuts: Customers Served Coffee While Strapped
Starbucks has become a popular gathering spot for some Second Amendment crusaders, but the company is pretending it doesn't have the power to keep them out.
February 9, 2010 |



So you're at your neighborhood Starbucks, maybe with your kids, and you notice a man sitting at the next table with a revolver strapped to his waist. The man next to him has a pistol. In fact, you realize as you look around, there's a table full of gun-toting customers just a few feet away, sipping coffee and doing nothing to conceal their deadly weapons. Aside from steering clear -- or else getting the hell out of there -- what can an unarmed citizen do?

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But Brady Campaign president Paul Helmke says this is a cop-out. "Here's the problem with that answer," he wrote on the Huffington Post this week: "Generally speaking -- and certainly in California -- businesses have the right to bar guns on their premises. It is their property and, just as they can prohibit entry by people with bare feet, they can do the same for people with guns."

8<------ Snip

Now, the Brady Campaign is stepping up its targeting of Starbucks. Its homepage blares the message: "Tell Starbucks: 'Keep Guns Out,'" alongside a spin-off of the Starbucks mermaid logo (with the mermaid holding a gun in each hand). It is circling a petition via e-mail appeals, in partnership with Credo Action, with titles like "Tell Starbucks: Offer espresso shots, not gunshots."

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"It's everyone's right to be able to sit in a restaurant or coffee shop with their family without intimidation or fear of guns, either concealed or openly carried," writes Lianna Davis, campaign manager for Credo. "Under the law, Starbucks has the right to adopt a gun-free policy, with an exception for uniformed police officers."

Uhmmm, sorry genius; there is no "right" to not feel intimidated.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/145616/starbucks%27_cop-out_to_gun_nuts:_customers_served_coffee_while_strapped

[RamboLiberal]

25. Guess the Brady Bunch can stick to Peet's

And the open carry advocates to Starbucks.

[Taitertots]

26. Has anyone ever been shot in a Starbucks by someone legally carrying n/t

[rd_kent]

27. Hardly ANYONE gets shot by someone legally carrying!

[Glassunion]

29. That's a bunch of bull. Stop it with your lies.

I could give you a laundry list of people that have been shot by CCW'ers...

Robbers... Rapists... Kidnappers... Home Invaders... Murderers...

[oneshooter]

30. OK then, hardly anyone that matters. n/t

[rd_kent]

31. Ok, you got me there!

[Jackson1999]

33. Of course Starbucks is okay with guns.....

for their employees at least.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/03/AR2009030304271.html

[Glassunion]

34. This happens all of the time.

Way to dig up a story from March of last year.

Goooo Google!

[aliendroid]

35. Brady bunch isn't supported by republicans

nor democrats it seems, but more democrats support them and very few republicans, and not one, I said, NOT ONE libertarian supports them.

[virginia mountainman]

36. Yes....Their founders, and current leadership is republican..

This is a statement of fact....as such, it cannot be refuted.


And yes, many Democrats follow those Republicans to their political demise..

[aliendroid]

37. but you and they are distorting things

I have never met an anti-gun republican, they may exist. Now the use of "republicans" to lead or found a group like this is probably an underhanded tactic to get republicans to soften up to them. But that lie will not work because republicans and this fact is only being used to convert democrats over to being pro-gun. Now my goal is to convert all my democrat friends into gun lovers but I will not use lies to do so and so I will not mention the brady group has anything to do with these fake republicans.

[virginia mountainman]

38. LOL Reagan, and Bush SR both, where supportive of Gun Control...

The Brady Campaign is full of Rethugs, Sara Brady, and Paul Helmke are BOTH, life long republicans, go to the "About Brady" page, and you will see it for yourself..

http://www.bradycampaign.org/about/jimandsarahbio.php

And Paul Helmke bio, conveniently leaves out the fact of his Republican mayorship.


http://www.bradycampaign.org/about/paul-helmke-bio.php

Than we get to mayor M Bloomberg, a REPUBLICAN mayor, and HIS gun control group...

Damn repukes...