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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:16 AM Original message |
Teacher loses appeal to carry gun at school |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank goodness there's some sanity in the courts...... |
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Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. +1 |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. Ostensibly, her reason was fear of her ex-husband |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. There are other options |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Since this is a high school, there is campus police, the Medford Police Department, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. When seconds count, the police are minutes away |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
173. Sometimes they are only MOMENTS away |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
86. That would explain why no one is ever harmed in a highschool |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Well, fewer are harmed now than have been in decades |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #91 |
139. Despite concealed carry laws and increased gun ownership, isn't that interesting. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #91 |
157. Ah, the race card. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #157 |
206. It's hard to separate gun control from racism, sadly NT |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
195. there was a case at the Univ of Washington recently |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
204. I will note that I grew up in mostly in rural New England... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
175. Yeah, that works great. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
155. When ink on paper fails to stop a criminal... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
194. and once heller gets incorporated |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
3. Reminds me of the dumbshit in PA - visible sidearm at kid's soccer game |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I never criticize your posts but I will this one |
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ronsii (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
109. Back to the soccer game |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
125. The first picture in the paper showed her standing with her kid's hand ON THE GUN! |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #125 |
135. Her husband the abusive cop? That one. That is her fault |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
158. You are a despicable excuse for a human being. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
176. Wow, that's pretty fucked up. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. Nobody is "allowed" to bring a weapon to school, but there is nothing to stop them from doing so |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Let's allow kids to carry weapons then. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I think they should be allowed to carry weapons if they can qualify for a state-issued permit |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. From the article in the OP |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Be afraid..be very very afraid...it is the American way... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. It's the human way. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Then why didn't she file another restraining order? |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:26 PM Original message |
If he was a threat, |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
33. Keep trying to justify a wackadoodle's antics |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Sure, call the cops. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:26 AM Response to Reply #33 |
159. "Keep trying to justify a wackadoodle's antics" |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
67. So by your logic... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
121. That actually IS the argument of many of the right-wing, pro-gun nutters |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
130. Of course not. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
142. and by yours we should only rely on the legal system and never attempt to defend ourselves or others |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 05:58 AM Response to Reply #67 |
151. Funny you should pick that movie poster |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #67 |
160. Armed self-defense is part of the legal system. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yeah, those work *so* well |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. So she ought to kill the guy who hasn't attacked her since the restraining |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
63. Only if he attacks her |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. The biggest risk, of course, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Harris and Klebold brought their own illegally-acquired weapons to Columbine High School |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. True, but I meant going on a shoot-em-up spree, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. A kid who would do such a thing has serious problems and shouldn't be in public school |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Why not just keep all the kids out of public schools? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. So much straw and hyperbole in that one I'm not even going to bother replying to it |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Like being able to anticipate which students will be violent and keeping them out of school? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Most students who turn violent have given plenty of warning signs |
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ronsii (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
111. You missed something |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
152. She'd probably read the SCOTUS ruling on Castle Rock v. Gonzales |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Do you have any idea how many women are murdered by men with restraining orders against them? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. You really don't get it, do you? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. The only way to keep students from bringing weapons to school is to have REAL security measures |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
72. You say that like it's obvious |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #37 |
143. I wish someone had told all of those school shooters that. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
147. No, YOU don't get it! |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
161. You seem to be quite sure that a student could take a firearm away from an adult. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
178. Nearby isn't good enough. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. And he hasn't attacked her since it expired. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:36 AM Response to Reply #39 |
163. "And he hasn't attacked her since it expired." |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
141. Those restraining orders work so well after all. Please tell me you are joking. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #8 |
153. You do understand the legal difference between minors and adults, right? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
177. Depends on 'kids'. Most are prohibited from handguns by federal law. |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #8 |
207. I think you are one who is full of it.... |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. THIS! |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. And any facility which allows people to carry concealed weapons |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
53. Really? |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Yes, the government is responsible for the safety of its people. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Really? |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Straw man. |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. No I wouldn't condemn them. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #75 |
165. In other words, they can't do what you say they can. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
181. Gonzales vs. Castle Rock. She called the cops for protection HOURS before he showed up and killed |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. The governmen is responsible for keeping bad people out of the country |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #58 |
95. You are just plain wrong. |
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ronsii (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
112. WRONG |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:07 AM Response to Reply #58 |
148. The Supreme court of the United States disagrees with you. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
164. And that is a guarantee. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #58 |
180. Gonzales vs. Castle Rock. You are so wrong I'm shaking with laughter right now. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Bingo. nt |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
55. Fort Hood has a "no guns" policy? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Yup.. only MP's / civilian security are armed. Others are disallowed. n/t |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. That's not a "no gun policy." |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Without physical security measures to exclude guns, such a policy means nothing |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
133. exactly.... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #73 |
144. The school resource officers in my state carry firearms. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #73 |
154. You really are completely wrong and disillusioned |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
184. The police carry in schools. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. All military bases do |
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ronsii (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
113. Works great!!! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. I don't think there's a shortage of guns at Ft. Hood |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Straw Man |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:08 AM Response to Reply #78 |
145. Plenty of guns all locked up in the armory. Not a lot of good for self defense. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
182. You have no clue how a military installation works. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
94. But if they are caught, they can at least be put in jail like they deserve. |
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Dogtown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
5. What's wrong with these people? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
183. She's an adult. Charged with teaching children. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. Thank god |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. School districts don't have a lot of credibility talking about no tolerance for violence, etc., |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The problem is, they tolerate violence by failing to take adequate steps to prevent it |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Amen |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. students have a constitutional right to carry guns at school...there is no age listed in the |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. LOL!!! Good one. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Because no age is listed in the Constitution, the states have the power to regulate use of guns |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. You need to stop with your nonsense justifying the carrying of weapons to school |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. The whole idea was for that teacher to carry a CONCEALED weapon for her own defense |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. So states could restrict the purchase of weapons to those over 80? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Maybe they could, or that might be unconstitutional. I'm not sure. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. How does one person owning 10 or 20 handguns serve a useful purpose? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Does the concept of "gun collection" have any meaning for you? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. So require a special collector's license |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. I have a federal firearms collector's license |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. That thing that just wooshed over your head? My point. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Please point out where you think I said that type of attack does not occur |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. And now we have another patented gungeon game: "Who Me? I Never Said What I Just Said" |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. What's so hard to understand about that? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #97 |
167. "These types of attacks actually DO occur." |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #89 |
102. So arsenal = 2 guns? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. *snort* hunting rifle vs sniper rifle.. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Oops, you caught me. I don't masturbate over Guns & Ammo. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Wait. You're admitting that you don't know what you're trying to ban... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. I'm not trying to ban anything. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Quoting what you wrote in reply #79... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Cool, you can join Recursion at the Sylvan Learning Center |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #108 |
116. Jeez, your complaint was about "want" rather than "ban"? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. My complaint was about your mischaracterization of my statements |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Actually you expressed approval towards banning "sniper rifles" but allowing "hunting rifles" |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Banning so-called "sniper" rifles has been proposed |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. No "among other things" about it.. that's _all_ it touched. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #131 |
138. Your pretense that you knew this all along is fooling no one |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #138 |
162. Give it up.. we talked about it then. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #124 |
132. The DC sniper used a .223 |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #132 |
137. You're somehow expecting legislation to have a connection to reality? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #137 |
172. Wow, this may be the most intelligent thing jgraz has ever posted in the Gungeon! |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #137 |
189. Nice backpedal. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. Yo genius. what is the designated marksman issued? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #134 |
136. Do you actually sleep with your gun? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #136 |
166. Here let me remind you what you said.. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #136 |
187. You sound like some idiot trying to regulate the top speed of cars |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #124 |
169. .50 cals. Hmmmm. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #124 |
186. The DC Sniper used a .223 rifle that doesn't qualify as a sniper rifle. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Congress has not actually banned possession of any type of gun |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. See? Was that so hard? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. I think that is a false dilemma - Federal power to regulate NFA weapons relies on its power |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
106. You're in good company.. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Like slackmaster, you need to look up the word "completeness" |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. World class dodge there.. did you learn that in the Matrix, too? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. your inability to read is not my problem |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #90 |
168. Maybe you should learn the technical aspects of what you wish to debate. |
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metalbot (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. What's the correlation between arsenals and murder? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
185. A hunting rifle IS a sniper rifle. |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Kindly Stay The Fuck Out Of My Neighborhood. (n/t) |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #188 |
192. Que? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 01:27 AM Response to Reply #188 |
202. If you're going to make that demand, maybe you should list your location in your profile |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #79 |
199. Can you cite a 'matrix' style attack? |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. The Monash University shooting in 2002 comes close |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #79 |
201. It doesn't present any added risk |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #79 |
205. If I own two guns... |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. I feel inferior around my peers cuz all I carry with me is a Glock 31. |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. By the way, I know that area |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. What does proximity to a jail, police station, etc... |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Gee, does one have to explain it to you? |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I understand the concern of "risking the students lives"... |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. You don't pack a fucking gun, period, at school. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
171. Ah, profanity. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
196. Observer effect. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-21-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
203. If the abusive ex *had* attacked her, would you have changed your opinion? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
42. You do know, right, that the police have no legal responsibility to protect you? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Oh, bullshit. Police patrol the area constantly |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Do you disagree that the police have no liability for failing to protect? |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. If you don't know about schools, don't try to argue with me. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. umm.. you're arguing (replying) to yourself. lol n/t |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
100. See post #19... Police are under no requirement/accountability for you protection. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #26 |
170. Self-defense does not equal... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
190. Wow, that's fucking stupid |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
35. Rec before this goes to the gun-nut forum...n/t |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. The gun nuts are coming out of the woodwork with their lies and specious arguments |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
127. Some people do carry guns to school, and the school becomes a shooting gallery... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
149. lies? LIES???! |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #41 |
156. So, you are saying that there is no way for someone to |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
193. We allow police officers to carry guns in schools. Happens all the time. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
197. We can in Utah. |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I did my part.....but the DU Gun Club's MO seems to be to unrec, get endless arguments started..... |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yeah, exactly. What good are facts when one is so fanatical |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 03:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
150. You should ask yourself about facts. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. You've sussed out their subtle plan |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
65. You can't have it both ways.. |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. I gave it rec #5. nt |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
54. oh, Medford. no surpises here, except the court ruled against. |
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Lucian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
59. #9. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
198. So, working in a school makes it reasonable to prohibit... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
61. Just to recap here |
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ronsii (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
105. Hmmmm, not sure what is worse |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
128. Welcome to DU. I agree with your post... |
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phasma ex machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
107. How on earth did this thread escape the gungeon? nt |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
129. It will end up there eventually... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:12 AM Response to Reply #107 |
146. Not enough anti 2nd amendment bigots alerted on it, I guess. |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
115. Because teachers are adults |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-19-09 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
118. I have no problem with this ruling if the school is willing to do two things: |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
140. Did you really mean to compare teachers and students in terms of responsibility? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
174. Are you serious? |
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mddem9850 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
179. Good |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-20-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #179 |
191. Thank you for that clear and reasonable argument. |
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