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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 12:56 PM
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Well, I just wiped out another Obama-panic-gun-control email
Sometimes I get forwarded stuff from my boss when he does a mass-forwarding. I got this gem on Tuesday, found it today...


Fwd: FW: All guns to be listed on (2010) TAX RETURNS
From:
To:


Now 'all Guns' must be listed
on your next (2010) tax return!


As if we didn't have enough to get upset about!
If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!

Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

| This bill was introduced on Feb.. 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT . . this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective ! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act o f 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama ? ..... you must be kidding !
|
The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage,U.S. Senate <http://www.senate.gov/> You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099.
| You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.|

<Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S.... OpenCongress <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text> |

Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

It has begun . . . Whatever Obama's secret Master Plan is....this is just the 'tip of the iceburg!'

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Ac t of 2009.|

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usuual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill befre signing and approving it !

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless:

-It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a current Driver's License -You supply your Social Security # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing -Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. -They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many opt ions to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pas s this along.|

This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

<Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress) <http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> :

<H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>

<H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us) <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>

Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control. We all should have the right to choose



I replied with the following:

From the US Senate website:

"Is it true that . . . Senate Bill SB-2099 will require owners of firearms to pay a $50 charge per gun and list each gun on their federal tax form?




The answer is no. This Internet rumor states that SB-2099 is legislation currently being considered by the Senate. The bill supposedly requires owners of firearms to list on their 1040 tax return all guns they own and then pay a $50 charge per firearm. There is no such legislation by this name in the 111th Congress.

The facts:

The last bill given the number S. 2099 was in the 105th Congress. This bill dealt with federal sentencing guidelines for counterfeiting offenses.
Legislation that the Senate is currently working on will be listed on the Active Legislation page or can be searched for on Thomas. For more information about the legislative process or finding bills, please see the Legislation VRD page."

http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/SB2099.shtml

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/taxreturns.asp





Actually, this dates back to 2000, during the evil Clinton years of peace, budget surpluses, and a roaring economy.


http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa091900a.htm


Sorry to disrupt your weekly Obama-panic, guys! But I'm sure the Nobel Prize will offer enough fodder for the next week or two... :-)


-<krispos42>




Now, there really is an HR 45 by this Holt guy to register all handguns. Here's the current status of this bill


MAJOR ACTIONS:
***NONE***


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ALL ACTIONS:
1/6/2009:
Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
2/9/2009:
Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TITLE(S): (italics indicate a title for a portion of a bill)
***NONE***


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COSPONSOR(S):
***NONE***


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COMMITTEE(S):
Committee/Subcommittee: Activity:
House Judiciary Referral, In Committee
Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security Referral



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
RELATED BILL DETAILS:

***NONE***

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AMENDMENT(S):
***NONE***


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR00045:@@@L&summ2=m&


Not a single co-sponsor. Died in committee.



:rofl: :smoke:

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:00 PM
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1. Thank you *sigh*
You should forward this one to that White House email checking thingy. They really need to figure out who is starting these lies.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:02 PM
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2. I thought they were just doing this for health-care emails?
He he he, but if I told them I forwarded it to the White House...

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:28 PM
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5. lol cute graphic
I don't know if it's just health care, but they should do it for all of them. It's just ridiculous and worth nothing that I *never* get this kind of crap from liberals.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:14 PM
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3. I have an even better idea for these lame forwarded
winger things. In your mail client app, click Reply All. Type your message and make sure that the original message is included. Then, in the To: field, ahead of the rest of the list of addressees, type an fbi.gov email address, followed by a cia.gov address. It needn't even be a correct address, and maybe shouldn't be.

The recipients of the Reply All message you send will notice that FBI email address. The wackos will know fear. The rest won't care. If we all do this with all right wing wacko email forwards, we might start cutting down on the number of them we get.

I'm sick to death of all the crap that shows up in my email.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:24 PM
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4. Who makes this shit up?
There should be a way to trace where this kind of shit gets started. What is really fucked up is that people BELIEVE this shit. I guess if people can be conned into believing a magic man lives in the sky, then this is not so far fetched....
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:38 PM
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6. To be fair...
Remember how all the anti's/grabbers were panicking about how the recent Lautenberg Amendment would let anybody carry any gun, anywhere"...?

Like that would be a bad thing...
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 02:03 PM
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8. What would be a bad thing?
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 01:45 PM
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7. Hell, even the NRA debunked this one..
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:52 AM
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9. Kick n/t
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