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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 08:48 PM Original message |
Vacaville toddler fatally shot by boy playing with gun |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. Generally because they're inattentive parents. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Or not having a gun in a house with children. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. It is a crime to leave a weapon unsecured. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
72. depends on the state |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:36 AM Response to Reply #72 |
75. What about with small kids around? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:25 AM Response to Reply #75 |
88. no, it's not |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #88 |
98. And I'm a SCORPIO in Texas.... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
116. Perhaps not where you live. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. that;s why these statements are so silly |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #72 |
89. not illegal. Just fucking stupid |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. no, i argue facts |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
110. It is illegal in California, but you can't be prosecuted unless someone is injured or killed |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
140. Vacaville's in California |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
108. In California it's a felony to leave a loaded weapon accessible to a child, if it's used by the kid |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Reading is fundamental. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Blame Drano? Did you even read what I said? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
73. geting rid of bathtubs will save more kids |
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virgogal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. God almighty,what's the matter with some people? |
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abelenkpe2 (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. My pop was in the military |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. My dad never even let us shoot guns, and definitely wouldn't have them in the house. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. This is covered under existing statutes. Stupid people |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Accidental firearms-related fatalities (esp. among youths) declining... |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Cool. Got a link? |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. During that period just about every state has |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #16 |
65. Unimpeachable source... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
201. I had firearms in the house around my daughter... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #201 |
210. Of course, you know that the grabbers are having caniptions looking at your gun porn no? NT |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #210 |
221. Never thought about it to be honest, but... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
8. You take drivers ed, a test and buy insurance to operate a car, but any moron can buy a gun |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. And laws that make leaving a weapon unsecured illegal...wait |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Do you think we should get rid of driving tests? nt |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
142. Do you think we should have gotten rid of voting tests? |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Actually the NRA provides every single one of those services. NT |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #18 |
66. And none of it's mandatory |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:09 AM Response to Reply #66 |
77. Isn't that just the absolute truth! |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:40 AM Response to Reply #66 |
82. As would I NT |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #66 |
143. They would be unconstitutional. Tests before voting have already been |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Hardly (n/t) |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Gun classes and gun safety are good things if they are not abused... |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
32. The NRA has its faults but they have always |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:43 AM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Congratulations |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #50 |
93. Wal Mart walk? n/t |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. The Wal Mart Walk |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. No and I don't intend to, I see no |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. The Wal Mart Walk |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Yup, that's why I go nowhere without a jaws-of-life, medical kit, ... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Preparedness |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #119 |
122. You have *imminent* cause for carrying a firearm. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. The difference is |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. Gosh. If I knew when "imminent" was going to occur... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Hey Pave, remember what you told me |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #137 |
162. You're right. Apology offered below. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #131 |
159. It makes you appear paranoid. And, yes, people probably make fun of you all the time. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Well, Treo just reminded me that I may have come off sounding hostile. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. About your stats. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #166 |
167. There's a big difference |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. So you believe there are 3 million violent crimes every year that justify the use of a firearm? (nt) |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #168 |
170. Umm... what part of 'violent crime' do you not understand? |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. And will very likely cause the criminal to end the attack |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #170 |
177. *You* said there are 3 mil violent crimes per year and that I have a 1in2 or 1in3 chance ... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Nope |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Nope |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. I am trying to remain civil please return the courtesy |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #177 |
202. The Bureau of Justice Statistics is your friend |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:26 PM Response to Reply #177 |
206. Again... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. There probably are |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #111 |
130. WalMart's corporate policy is... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #111 |
149. I believe Wal-Mart corporate policy is to allow whatever local law allows |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #107 |
222. Because Walmart shoppers are traitors |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
129. You're getting the situations a little mixed up. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
141. Your car example is not correct. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #8 |
147. There's no shortage of gun owners, including NRA members, who would agree with you in the abstract |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. When kids are in the house, your weapons have to be in a safe place. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Regs don't help |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That's what I meant by regs. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Clearly, the boy was just asserting his second amendment rights. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:30 AM Response to Reply #12 |
46. Clearly the solution is to make sure toddlers can shoot back. |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #12 |
91. Hear hear. And if the toddler was packing heat, this might not have happened. |
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boilinmad (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #91 |
99. GUNS FUCKING SUCK |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
132. Not really. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:19 AM Response to Reply #132 |
212. Haha I caught myself slipping in Mote terminology a few days ago. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #212 |
216. Joss Whedon or Peter Jackson could probably swing it. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #99 |
211. What? Since when? Mine must be broken then. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #99 |
217. You're thinking of vacuum cleaners |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #12 |
157. Neither "keep" nor "bear" equals "discharge" |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
13. The parents were protecting their kids with that gun. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Don't know what those parents' motivations were, but mine is for protection... |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Odds in that house are now 50% |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
58. And now they have one less kid to protect |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
67. It really worked out gud for thim, din't it? |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
124. Worked like a charm... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
20. The parents were dead wrong and should be prosecuted |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
78. Why not? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. I lost a friend to an accidental shooting many years ago. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I got shot myself by an idiot |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Did that make your gunshot wound hurt any less? |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. No it didn't |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. The government mandates parental responsibilities all the time. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. So do you propose |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Go back and read my post we agree on more than we disagree on |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Hi j |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. For you, it took zero. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. So, tell us J |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Of course. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. well I tried |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #53 |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:55 AM Response to Reply #60 |
69. I see your new strategy to convince us you're safe around firearms to act like fifth graders. |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:03 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Are you venting about gun owners, or trying to 'help'? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #69 |
106. You even wrote that like a fifth grader, impressive. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #106 |
121. Sorry, Dave, was the wording too advanced for you? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #121 |
138. I am just glad to see our consultant from the Joyce Foundation back again. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
165. Is it a strategy when there's no attainable objective? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #165 |
183. He was a consultant for the Joyce Foundation of course his mind is made up. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #183 |
185. He doesn't come here for debate he just likes to poach gun looneys in the gungeon NT |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. Just as long as people know who he really is. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. I tend to think we should just stop engaging him . |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. You'll notice he doesn't respond to me much. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. I've noticed that as soon as you hit him W/ an actual fact he runs NT |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 03:43 AM Response to Reply #192 |
218. Only to pop up elsewhere regurgitating the same talking points |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:24 AM Response to Reply #45 |
81. I noticed it on another thread.... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
133. So, if a set of parents fails to properly use a car seat... |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
79. Sooooooo.... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #79 |
84. Quit a spectrum between "good parent" and "abuser" don't you think? |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:05 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Wow... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:16 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. So, you're not interested in answering the question? got it . |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #87 |
94. When you ask a legit question then and only then... |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
112. How is Treo endangering children? By keeping his firearms secured? |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
114. You're a grabber dear |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:39 AM Response to Reply #94 |
155. You want "child endangerment"? I have some statistics for you |
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SsevenN (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #155 |
160. Fantastic post and points Euromutt. NT |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:43 AM Response to Reply #94 |
156. You'll get no answer from this one. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 05:38 AM Response to Reply #79 |
154. Speaking as a parent... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
213. My parents kept a loaded double-barrel in the hall closet my entire life. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. You been hunting with Chaney? n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Dammit, you beat me to it! |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. One of my neighbors is a gun nut |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Please call the police. Seriously. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Can you cite a statute that makes it illegal to touch a gun while intoxicated? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Lemme guess -- you're in FAVOR of drunks carrying guns. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:25 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Please see my thread on the subject in "Guns" |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
74. In Colorado it's 18-12-106, "Prohibited use of weapons." |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:15 AM Response to Reply #51 |
80. Oh...give you the NRA award for gun stupidity.... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #51 |
83. Perhaps we'll get lucky and he'll mistake one for a telephone |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #83 |
96. Any two of the three in any combination is bad news, IMO. n/t |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #51 |
214. Post taken at face value, if he's threatening to shoot people, that's assault. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #214 |
219. In Colorado it's felony menacing IF he has a gun in hand when does it. NT |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. And say what? My neighbor has guns, booze and children in the same house? |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Tell them exactly what you said here and ask them to do a welfare check nT |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Say the same thing you did here. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #56 |
101. Having alcohol in the house does not mean you are a drunk... |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. I've seen him drunk many times, |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #103 |
113. Oh, quite so. I was just cautioning against generalizing from your neighbor |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #56 |
215. You said "threatening to shoot people", which of course, is a crime. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Hell, here in bat-shit crazy mofo republican Arizona |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You can carry a gun into a bar in a large majority of states. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:01 AM Response to Reply #68 |
85. 1st time Felons can already purchase guns here after they've served their time... |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:38 AM Response to Reply #85 |
100. More evidence that we should require licenses to have kids. nt |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #85 |
146. Check it out... I did |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #146 |
150. Okaaaaaay |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #146 |
163. The frequency of the profanity... |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. Ya think? NT |
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BillDU (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
25. Seems unintelligent |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. The parents should have secured this weapon... |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-23-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
28. ... |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
42. Horrible for everyone involved. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
44. Oh well. More carnage...Ho hum....Guns guns guns guns guns for everybody! |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. You really should lay off the caffeine , especially this late. NT |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Absolutely! If the two year old had had a gun |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
63. ...."guns don't kill people.... " ...."inattentive parents kill kids" . . .!!! |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #63 |
95. Oh and here I thought the meme from the gun looneys is... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
64. That takes care of one more potential "gun owner" the Darwin Effect gotta love it (n/t) |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. So, you're celebrating the death of a 2 YO ? That's some serious progressive concern for your fell |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
135. Wow, you like being a POS don't you? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #135 |
145. Too bad ... they moved this stupid thread to the gungeon |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:51 AM Response to Reply #145 |
151. Wow, 145 Posts before the Penis references showed up |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:39 AM Response to Reply #145 |
153. So unoriginal.... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
92. Ok, here's what I think should happen here. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Amen to your last statement: |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
115. If the child had belonged to a gun nut |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
128. Actually |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #128 |
164. Of course they hold the parents accountable. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #164 |
169. Wow |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #169 |
174. Of course you do. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. I'd say YOU'RE responsible for this |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Well DUH! |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #176 |
178. I'm going to ask again |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #178 |
180. Gun laws have nothing to do with it. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #180 |
182. If nothing else you certainly live up to your name. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. The strange thing is that I raised 3 sons with guns |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #186 |
189. I have never fought for the right of anybody to drive drunk. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #189 |
191. Do you have any actual facts that you'd like to present ? |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. What invectives? |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #195 |
197. Can you cite these thousands of innocent victims? NT |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. Read the news. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #199 |
203. Ok when it get's to the point of you essentially just spewing hate we're done NT |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #195 |
208. "Everybody is responsible for the results of their actions" |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #189 |
194. Yeah, but do you think people should be allowed to drink and/or own cars? |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. Not at the same time. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. It's not HIS argument it's YOUR argument W/ a twist. NT |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #196 |
209. So anybody who is planning to have a drink... |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #189 |
204. No I haven't fought for "the right of every Tom, Dick and Nutjob who wants one to own a gun" |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #189 |
225. Nor has has anyone "fought for the right of every Tom, Dick and Nutjob who wants one to own a gun" |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #175 |
193. He's also responsible for backyard pool drownings and dog bites. |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #193 |
200. And out comes the same old worthless argument. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #200 |
205. Or we could use your argument |
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Demobrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #205 |
220. Not sure why I'm bothering but |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #220 |
223. You might get somewhere if you stop ranting like a teabagger frothing about healthcare |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-26-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #220 |
224. "Guns have no legitimate use other than killing." |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #200 |
207. You've yet to admit your moral responsibilty for child porn & neo-Nazi websites |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #97 |
158. Sayeth the dog owner |
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robo50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #92 |
102. I sort of share your anger and sentiment. But I also imagine that |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I disagree |
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robo50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Well, I see your point, and appreciate you disagreeing with me. But I wonder |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
127. Ugly business all around. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
134. No gun owner here is celebrating the death of a child. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. That's right near here - fuck! |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
125. If only the toddler had had a gun... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
126. 14 |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
136. If you have guns and children in the same house... |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-24-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
139. If you know someone with handgun and kids, get them a quick access lockbox as a present. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #139 |
148. I'll second that |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-25-09 02:35 AM Response to Reply #139 |
152. +2 |
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