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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:01 PM
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A gun control idea that might work...
Live in a tough neighborhood? Get $500 from West Palm Beach police for reporting guns

Friday, June 19, 2009

WEST PALM BEACH — Live in a rough 'hood surrounded by gun-packing thugs? Quick cash is a phone call away.

Under a new program announced this morning, anyone who spots people packing heat in West Palm Beach can call Palm Beach County Crime Stoppers anonymously and could receive a $500 reward.

The West Palm Beach Police Department will cough up $500 each time such a phone call leads to recovery of the weapon and an arrest for unlawful firearm possession.

Police say the program, modeled after similar efforts in Miami and Orlando, is different from traditional gun buyback programs because it seeks to nail the gun-wielders themselves.

"Ours actually goes after the felon," West Palm Beach police Lt. David Bernhardt said. "When you see the thousands of dollars we spend on a criminal investigation, $500 is nothing."

The police department has set aside $5,000 for the program — enough to dole out 10 full rewards. Bernhardt said that if it is a success officials will find money to continue giving out payments for gun arrests even after the initial money is depleted.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/local_news/epaper/2009/06/19/0619gunbounty.html


Sounds more effective than a gun buy back program. Assuming, of course, that the guy caught with the illegal weapon does some serious time.
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:09 PM
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1. Might nab some bad guys. Might harass some people carrying legally too.
Not sure how I feel about this. Isn't this the same town that made it illegal to feed the homeless?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 09:02 PM
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7. If someone notices I'm packing heat...
they're damn good. If they call the cops and I get stopped I deserve it.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:15 AM
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9. You deserve to get stopped by police...
for exercising a Constitutional Right?

That doesn't sound right at all....
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:35 AM
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10. True, however under current Florida law...
I can legally carry a CONCEALED weapon. I do my best to make sure it is concealed.
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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:14 PM
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2. My problem is, Where's the money going to come from? NT
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:55 AM
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12. Maybe it's cheaper to capture and lock up violent criminals than to let them run loose
I don't have enough information for a good cost-benefit analysis, but perhaps the financial costs of allowing a career violent criminal to live outside of jail might be lower than incarceration plus the $500.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 11:48 AM
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13. The reason why politicians pass "feel good" laws...
is they're cheap and cost the government very little. They also convince the voters that the politicians are trying to confront the problem and solve it.

Unfortunately such laws accomplish little or nothing to reduce gun violence. They do, however, usually bother honest people.
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:16 PM
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3. The problem with simple, effective programs...
Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 06:18 PM by Lagomorph
Is it leads to abuse.

Plant a murder weapon, call the cops.

"Police, I saw Leonard put a weapon in a box on his porch."
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:18 PM
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4. Or just unreasonable search and seizure.
It seems like an innovative idea, but the potential consequences are pretty bad. I don't think it's going to work out.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:28 PM
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5. And what happens when they expand the program to other things?
Suspect your neighbor of having a joint? Turn him in, you just might win cash!
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 06:39 PM
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6. Agreed
That is the rub. It's no good to get one gun off the street if the felon carrying the illegal firearm gets off with a slap and goes out to get another one quickly.

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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 07:40 AM
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8. I am a real big fan of locking up criminals, but I think everyone else is right.
Too many problems with this approach.


Of course the current administration is taking this approach with domestic terrorists.
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votingupstart Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 09:46 AM
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11. i will be interested to see how this is implemented nt
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davepc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 12:13 PM
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14. So you call the West Palm PD with the names of rival gang mebers
Wait for them to be picked up off the street, then move into their territory!

West Palm PD does all the work for you, and you don't even have to perform a drive-by!
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 08:20 PM
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16. Damn, that's a plan. You would have made a good criminal...
drug lord. I personally would have just bought the top cops off.
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-16-09 01:28 PM
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15. It is worth a trial.
They aren't going into it full-bore. Let's wait and see what happens.
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