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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:22 PM Original message |
Taking on Guns |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. All the sensible points in the world won't conjure up a Democratic Congress that will support them. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Of course the so called sensible points are not as adversitied |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Then take them on, and let the reader decide who's more sensible. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. ... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-11-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
97. The Democratic Party STILL has its call for an AWB in the platform... |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Oregon Firearms Educational Foundation |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Why the bigoted assumtion that only white men support the RKBA? |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Because it matches hard statistics? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
98. Yes, we can't forget the millions of armed women, too... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. hahahaha |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. got any proof of that assertion? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. nonono ... what he really means is |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Why is it that only white men try to push guns on everyone? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I spotted a woman! |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
79. Ok you aren't a bigot. You are ignorant. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. you'd better quote that request pretty quick |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. It's always so interesting to see the legitimate questions you don't respond to. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. nice save, dave |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. It's just your penchant for skipping any substantive question. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. and your mother wears army boots |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. How nice insulting someone's ill mother. You are a real class act. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
94. WA has legal guns on campus |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
5. Stop retail commerce in new guns and ammo. Turn off that spigot to a worsening problem. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Its an anti freedom anti rights position, not suitable for a liberal or progressive |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You can't be bigoted against an inanimate object. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Now PP it's not nice to use facts against rants. n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. and if you could point |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
74. No, you are not correct. Again. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
75. PS - further dictionary definitions reinforce my -correct- interpretation |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. removed |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. There is a ban against certain harmful digital images. Guns and ammo cause more harm. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I thought you'd given up that silly analogy.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. really?? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Read up on previous conversations.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. hahahahaha |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. I don't need to research, I was there.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I know what I'm talking about |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. *sigh* Let me catch you up.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. sorry ... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Equivalent.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. okey dokey |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. And you step in the same pile of shit that sharesunited did.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. huh |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You joined the movie late, then complain.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I really wish we could get you to focus |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Use the search, Luke.. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. if I had wanted to participate in that conversation |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Guns are way far behind alcohol and tobacco. nt |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. The amount of guns is increasing dramatically while gun violence is decreasing |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. gosh |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Well golly |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. sadly, of course |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Well then, we better ban that |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. LOL! Excellent. n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. don't know your Tennessee Williams really well, do you? |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Tennessee Williams was dead when I was an infant |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. sigh |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. What is your education? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. B.A., LL.B. |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I spent all of high school |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. well, good luck |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
71. Of course, fanatics rarely think of themselves as such |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. Your "seven sensible points on guns" have the following weaknesses. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. 1, 2, 3 are stupefyingly well supported, |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Please provide links to credible reports proving 1, 2, 3. Five is your opinion that is contrary |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. jody just cannot make up his mind |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Political Heretic please reply to #15 so there is at least one intelligent response to it. n/t |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. You seem to be an honest person, trying to find the truth... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Excellent. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. you seem to be an adolescent male |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. You seem to be a pathetic old woman |
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Jackson1999 (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #33 |
69. agreed. excellent. nt |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Actually... |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
17. Most people would rather.. |
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Jackson1999 (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
20. This group is not exploiting anything!! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
21. taking on the gun dungeon ... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. Unfortunately for you, there's no group exception to the US Constitution |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. unfortunately for anyone unlucky enough to click on your posts |
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raimius (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
77. One sided. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. indeed, the fanaticism is one sided |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
83. That's hysterical, funniest post ever ivy. That shit is priceless. Great fiction. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #83 |
92. There's one extremely fanatical character around here |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. She might be Lisa Lampinelli in real life. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 06:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. well there sure are a lot of people who can't tell the truth |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. 31 posts and no one that I saw had anything to say about the militia being |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. The militia isn't the reason for the guns or for the right to keep and |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So, the First specifically says it doesn't apply to the states |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Good point except the OP referenced that issue in #5 of its source to which I responded. n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #34 |
72. Because that is simply not true |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. Let me see |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
66. Well, reading the full post will help you understand that. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
70. #6 is a lie. #3 begs a source. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
73. Guns on campuses. |
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raimius (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
76. interesting points. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
81. Just a couple of points. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. so INFRINGEMENT is okay |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Aren't you supposed to be a legal secretary or something? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. not as far as I know |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-09-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
88. I'm rather leery about describing one's own points as "sensible"... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
96. K&U because of item #3, which presents a straw man and an unsupported "factoid" |
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