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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:47 AM Original message |
Concealed Handgun Permit Holders Kill 7 Police, 44 Private Citizens Over Two-Year Period |
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katmondoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is exactly what to expect |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
119. What, that the rate is so low? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
155. Where are the comparison numbers |
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dothemath (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #155 |
189. similar to ................. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. I'm sorry |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #192 |
315. No need to feel sorry. Poster has an attitude problem. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #189 |
198. Where did they bury the survivors? |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #189 |
316. Got anything actually useful to contribute? |
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sodom (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
251. did anyone actually bother to read the report, because its b.s. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #251 |
266. The point is, those who argue for CC make the spurious claim that |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #266 |
278. I haven't seen anyone argue that CCW owners are NO threat. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #266 |
281. 8 hour class, range qualify. 50 state background check, and excludes |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #281 |
354. That is EXACTLY my point - even with the extensive (lol) background |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 10:11 AM Response to Reply #354 |
355. as I've stated elsewhere... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #355 |
357. It is not I that makes the claim that CC holders are all unfailingly |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #357 |
360. Please, point out a post where ANYBODY on this forum has stated... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #354 |
356. "more than 40 people" vs 20,000 killed by non CCW holders. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #266 |
286. Very nice, but you missed a spot in the left leg |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #251 |
320. You don't understand, why read anti-gun propaganda before running in |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #251 |
341. What did you expect? |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
2. only cops should have guns |
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Wolf-Were (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Sure thing we know |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
84. Arming citizens because police have guns makes no sense at all. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #84 |
112. Two points. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #84 |
374. It does make some sense, actually |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Bullshit. Cops are more likely to commit crimes than the average person. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. And cops are twice as likely to commit violent crime than a handgun permit owner. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Aw, come on, bringing real actual facts into this hysterical clusterfuck is |
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sfwriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
157. LOL EOM |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
207. Good one! |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #207 |
236. I'm not stockpiling |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #207 |
275. Who needs a......? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. You really are jaded |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. They can't dispute the facts. nt |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
76. I can dispute this, goodbye, another one makes my ignore list |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #76 |
101. I thought I was already on your ignore list. |
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Hard2believe (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
195. It is disgusting and an aberration |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #195 |
203. And yet none of mine have ever done so. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #203 |
212. Besides, the real purpose of firearms is to sell them to customers. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #195 |
238. You got off track in your first sentence |
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Hard2believe (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 02:40 AM Response to Reply #238 |
352. You need to check your facts before you |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #352 |
359. Gun related death stats are MEANINGLESS, yet people keep trying to use them. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #195 |
285. Bravo |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #195 |
343. and never mind the little 12 year old that learned how to use a shotgun |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #195 |
372. It would be an aberration, if it were true |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #76 |
330. The old head in the sand tactic, nice. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
116. Self delete... |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
72. Where did you meet these cops? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Your attitude disgusts me |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Criminals? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. Are we a bit sensitive today? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #95 |
150. You think cops are criminals? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #150 |
156. WTF? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #156 |
284. My use of the ignore button? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #150 |
287. Indeed you can. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #287 |
307. Two words and thay AIN'T Merry Christmas |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
104. Didn't say they were all or even mostly criminals. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
324. Sigh.........Google is your friend |
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razorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
44. There has always been a very thin line between police mentality and criminal mentality. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
83. 87.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
124. No they aren't. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. You sound like the freepers who say "It's cold outside... so much for global warming!" |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:32 PM Response to Reply #129 |
142. Well, I figured that's the kind of "evidence" you want... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #124 |
199. Well, I agree with you for a variety of reasons, but you should post a source for the stat claim |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #199 |
205. I'll try to find it. nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 08:02 AM Response to Reply #199 |
353. It's something I heard in law school... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Right |
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amyrose2712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:34 PM Original message |
Sigh. nt |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Where I live, the cops tell us to buy guns. |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Hell |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
63. I live in a rural county in North Central Illinois, 90 miles from Chicago |
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Old Codger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #63 |
176. an example of no guns allowed in Australia |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
217. waiting for the burglar on the other side of the door with a shotgun. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #217 |
229. Yep. Mr. Kohr is apparently just waiting for the opportunity to shoot someone. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #229 |
313. I do not own a functioning gun, so I'm not shooting anyone soon, nor do I have plans to. |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #217 |
242. Why warn him |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #217 |
274. Verbal warnings are a good idea, |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #217 |
291. Wow, I like how you jumped to the conclusion that he didn't vocalize a warning when no such... |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #217 |
308. Actually that is exactly what happened |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
77. There's a lot of urban areas where 4 minutes is a fantasy for police response time. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
231. Princeton isn't as rural as yu want to pretend. |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #231 |
314. I don't live in Princeton |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-23-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #314 |
373. I do live in a rural area. BUt I've lived in a lot more rural. |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
346. Where I live, the cops shoot friendly action pistol competitions |
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razorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
42. Any state where only the police have guns is a police state. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
50. See how well that worked out for these ladies: |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
139. More public policy by youtube |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #139 |
160. It's a great leveler. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #160 |
171. Yes, it magically drops everyone's IQ to zero. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. So I guess Obama has an IQ of zero? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #160 |
220. real what, now? |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
153. ol' ryan fucked up, didn't he? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
332. Why, government is not obligated to protect you, me, or anyone else? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. quelle surprise. nt |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
4. But...but...but...they have a RIGHT to bear arms! |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. That makes no sense |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Link please |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Roll your on inquiry at WISQARS |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #32 |
54. C'mon, really? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. National Safety Council ok? |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
174. LOL. Good post! |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
103. they do havea right to bear arms. and this cop supports that |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
107. Yes, the Second Amendment does protect the right to keep and bear arms. |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #107 |
222. Yes, the Second Amendment does protect the right to keep and bear arms. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #222 |
297. No, you're just trying to have the grammatical structure of the english language change to.... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
110. That was how many cops in one (1) year? 3.5? (nt) |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #110 |
126. Right. I'm sure their families don't mind. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #126 |
299. Yep. Now lets use your "logic" and apply to everything else in our society. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
283. So repeal it. Wouldn't be the first time.. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
5. Considering the # of concealed permit carriers this is a.... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. What they really need is data on the relative number |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. They commit violent crimes at a rate one third that of normal people. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Can you please provide a link to those stats? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
61. Here's a couple... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
243. keep in mind that by "normal people" |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. If you were one of the persons killed, how low would it be to you? |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. So it has to be zero? |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
68. If your life was defended by |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
73. "One is too many" is a false and irrational argument. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #73 |
134. hey hitler |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #73 |
219. It's also a logical fallacy. |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
132. Appeal to emotion, check |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
301. No, I doubt they would. |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
56. Here's another way of looking at it |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #56 |
105. So 5% of CCW gun owners commit 6% of cop deaths? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #105 |
233. Probably because you didn't read it very well |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #233 |
240. Sure you did. |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
276. You only mentioned cops |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
62. stunningly low n/t |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #62 |
90. According to our local gun nuts, the rate is absolute zero |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:59 PM Original message |
Please point out the source of those claims. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
109. You'll have to dig up specific threads, but I can get you started |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. I'm sorry, but I don't see any links to DUers saying anything resembling "gun owners never |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #113 |
121. ah, the ol' strawman n/t |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #113 |
136. You may, and I'll just assume you're as lazy as I am |
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subcomhd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. I don't really feel like digging through the latrine of DU to find a tiny pearl to hand to you. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. If a casual perusal would give me more than a few examples of what you're claiming exists, why can't |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #109 |
123. Uh, which one, champ? (nt) |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #90 |
114. What a lovely straw man.. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #90 |
120. According to our local prohibitionists, there is blood in the streets... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #120 |
224. why does Mark Twain come so often to mind |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #90 |
127. That's a classic Straw Man |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. delete, dupe |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
8. And I always hear that people with concealed guns only act in self defense and are law-abiding |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. How do you know that these werent the same circumstances? |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Not many police officers are shot in self-defense nor are people charged with crimes. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. You may be surprised |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
180. You need to factor OUT the suicide canard that's thrown into this "study" |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. I don't think anyone has claimed that no CHL holder |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
177. Keep in mind that this "study" lists people CHARGED. Not convicted of |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
302. If you aren't rational enough to recognize that a 100% perfection rating... |
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downindixie (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
10. How many people have been killed by taser the last two years? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
60. Very few |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
115. The fact is... |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
144. I cannot seem to find a clear listing of the amount of deaths |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
145. The fact is... "linked" does not mean "caused" |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #145 |
344. I see you spouting your opinion but I see no figures or facts.. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. "private citizens?" |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
12. Which is still much less than half the rate of POLICE killing people. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
13. Let me see if I get this right: "This just shows that anti-gun laws don't work." |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
17. So fucking what? Mosquitos killed more than that LAST MONTH. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
69. mosquitos are created by nature... man creates guns |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
125. And? |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
280. Nature created man. |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
292. Again: So fucking what??? |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
108. i support gun rights, but fast food didn't kill anybody |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
18. I know I'll sleep a lot better knowing that only the "authorities" have the right to bear arms. |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
22. Guns don't kill people,,, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
24. If only those people hadn't had permits, none of the victims would have died |
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Blandocyte (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. I'm surprised it's that high |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
74. You know you're more likely to be murdered by a police officer, right? |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
28. Only 51 people? |
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Rebubula (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
31. And??? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
37. We all know that Sugarman would NEVER lie about this |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
81. This is a report gathered from the news.. |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
38. Any data on the rates? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
39. Yeah, the Senate needs to be wasting time on this. |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
43. 31 incidents out of millions of permit holders... |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
45. It is somewhat surprising to me that the stats are so low...................... |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
46. You guys are caraaaaaaaaaaaazy down there |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Hmmm, interesting. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. if a city already has 20 with strict gun laws there will be more |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
133. Hammering dead wrong... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
100. vancouver canada has a HIGHER homicide rate |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
228. so? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
237. okay, you made me look |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #237 |
333. As of 2000, Seattle metro area population is just over 2.4 million. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
102. Trust me. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #102 |
239. not a chance |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
232. Okay, we'll have no more of these rational arguments! |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
317. You are wrong. |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:19 PM Response to Reply #317 |
334. sorry, very few are allowed... for target practice. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #317 |
349. my (american citizen ) relatives were allowed to take their handguns to canada |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #349 |
365. 1950, was it? (ed.) |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:01 AM Response to Reply #365 |
368. this was within the last year |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 10:38 AM Response to Reply #368 |
369. well, you can believe it if you like |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #369 |
370. what is your point? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-22-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #370 |
371. whichever |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #317 |
366. and of course you do know |
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BeGoodDoGood (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
47. Georgia Firearms License |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
48. A friend who is a cop was visiting this weekend told me ...... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:06 PM Original message |
Here in Seattle, more than one officer I know encourages people to get them. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
87. i'm a cop near seattle |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
345. Thank you officer for your honesty and your post |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
49. Look a the revocation rates for CCW permits. |
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BeGoodDoGood (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
79. Me.......... |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
53. let's provide some context here |
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Justyce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Exactly. Thank you. |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. Pretty simple |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
57. 4 of 7 Cops killed with AK-47's |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
282. 304 million people in the US |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
58. Not surprising. People fearful enough to want to carry a gun will tend to use it. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
85. ah, the fear canard |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #58 |
89. Typical anti-stereotype. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
146. Another culture war stereotype -- by a prohibitionist (nt) |
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BeGoodDoGood (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
186. They'll tend to use it rather than be defenseless and just shot. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. If you think people as a group are basically bad, you want to have a firearm so you can shoot them. |
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BeGoodDoGood (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #191 |
208. No, I do Not. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #208 |
234. Right - the Wild West was a better society. |
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Israfel4 (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
59. So lets say a maximum |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
64. There are 800,000 Carry Permits in my state alone (PA) |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. I have no problem with a national law, either way. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
66. The problem with the VPC is, it grabs the earliest and most inaccurate version of each news report. |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
78. I just love statistics... |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
290. Of the 44 non-police homicides... |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #290 |
362. Comparing Apples to Some Guy Named Horace. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
82. While I personally would like to live in a place that has UK type controls |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
215. You mean a place where... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
86. How did DU turn into a wing of the NRA? So much support for widespread gun ownership. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I'm pro-choice on guns for the same reason I am pro-choice on cigarettes |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Our rights are a public health threat? |
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Redneck Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Democrats support gun rights |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. "DU" didn't ... it's just the gungeon denizens coming out into the light |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. You're a charmer, aren't you? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #106 |
117. it's not the bill of rights that is the problem |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #117 |
131. Oh, its the people that don't want to do away with the Bill of Rights you don't like. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. nope, you've still got nuthin' |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #141 |
143. So your point is... |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #143 |
162. keep guessing n/t |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. Nope. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. if you can't figure out the point, i'm not going to waste time explaining it to you n/t |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #168 |
172. Why should anyone have to ferret out your own point for you? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #172 |
181. no one has to "ferret out" my point for ME |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Oh, your point is an animated smiley face rolling on the ground! |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
122. Oh, I see you have come out from under yours, too. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #122 |
140. if the vast majority of my posts were made in the gungeon, you MIGHT have a point |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #140 |
209. Really, what IS your point? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #209 |
218. another dim one ... :eyes: n/t |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #218 |
244. OK, you win |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
149. Seems like you're always sniffing 'round here. Like dem rocks? (nt) |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #149 |
163. sniffing around LBN? n/t |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #163 |
210. Sniffing my rock? Oooo, we have to quit meeting like this (nt) |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #210 |
335. one wouldn't need to sniff to find you, if so inclined (although i don't know why one would) |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
225. they don't always scuttle |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
97. You are mistaken on a couple things. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #86 |
130. How it turned. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #130 |
152. And many never had to turn.. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
147. You do know that the VPC is GOP-founded, GOP-led? Don't you? (nt) |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #86 |
173. Freeptards with guns are a public health threat. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
193. It's a minority. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #193 |
221. they like to stalk around, and they recruit their nutty friends from other gun boards |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #193 |
250. Unrepresentative of who? Of DU? Of Democrats? Of liberal/progressives? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #250 |
260. of decent, rational people? |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #260 |
263. Oh, now that's just as charming as can be. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #263 |
269. I don't think either Scout or I has any desire to charm the dungeon denizens |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #269 |
273. Says someone who has made thousands of posts in the gungeon. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:56 PM Response to Reply #273 |
294. more gun dungeon ADD |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #294 |
303. Way to slip an anecdote about your LSAT score into casual conversation! |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #250 |
270. O Noes! Theys founded me. nt |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #270 |
293. I'm not sure how that's responsive to my post. n/t |
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Incitatus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
279. Maybe because we understand the reasons the 2nd Amendment was put into the Constitution. |
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krister (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
93. ....Um, yeah.... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
94. Very low numbers.... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
98. Is your point that this is an extraordinarly large number? n/t |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
99. The VPC? A GOP-founded, GOP-led group... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
111. In Vermont, you don't need a permit to conceal carry |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
118. Judi Lynn, what's your point, anyway? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #118 |
154. Fair request. What IS the point of the OP? Where is she? (nt) |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #154 |
326. Y'all are hankering for a lynching, aren't ya? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #326 |
337. Waddya mean? |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #337 |
348. You're ganging up and bullying the OP. Don't be fatuous. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #348 |
350. Really? How can someone "gang up on" someone who isnt here? Don't be vacuous. |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
200. Does an OP need to have a reason for bringing something to the table? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #200 |
213. Well, yes, I would like to think so |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #200 |
246. The "study" cited in the OP is pure propaganda |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
128. I wonder if any of the cops shot were charmers like this one here in MN |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
135. So, is this bad or good? What specific point are you making? |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #135 |
170. Good question. The numbers seem low to me but without a "control" group |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
148. This thread is innudated with gun huggers |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. What does that have to do with concealed weapons permits? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #151 |
178. Hey, dont piss him off by pointing out the obvious |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #148 |
158. If every adult were required by law to carry a loaded and UNconcealed weapon.... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #148 |
161. You're changing the subject. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #148 |
165. OK. We all can agree that it would be a better world if there were less violent crime |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #148 |
230. Happens every time..... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #230 |
248. Its annoying when multiple sides of an issue show up, isn't it? |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #248 |
249. Whatever you say, dude..... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #249 |
252. Yeah, that's about what I expected. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
159. These figures mean nothing out of context. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #159 |
169. The suicide is just a canard that has no business in this study. |
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missemc2 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
166. Here's what I think... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #166 |
179. Yup, you sure are just sayin'. |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #166 |
321. My collection is |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
167. While I see these numbers as very low as compared to national average I have some |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
182. As soon as my CCW arrived in the mail, I went out and shot some cops. |
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BeGoodDoGood (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #182 |
187. Igot mine in the mail Friday! |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
184. Inevitable. Quite sad, but inevitable. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #184 |
214. What is inevitable and quite sad? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #214 |
254. The deaths |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
185. 185 replies in this thread, and not a single response from the OP. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #185 |
197. I think she realized that the numbers speak for themselves but don't say what she originally thought |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
188. That's, like fifty-one people. Who cares? |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. You've got to concede that 51 people dying over the course of two years, while tragic |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. I remember discussing the early days of the war on a repuke-dominated |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #194 |
201. While it is true that human life is not disposable... |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #194 |
202. If any number greater than 0 is deemed a tragedy |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Prevented, yes... |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #204 |
223. So the deaths are tragic, but unpreventable? |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #223 |
342. Yes. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #194 |
206. You can knock off the "more sensitive than thee" schtick. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #190 |
305. The inverse porpotionality of Stalin eh? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #188 |
268. 303 million nine hundred and ninety thousand |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
196. Oh, wow, I'll just give up my guns and permit then. |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
211. How many people did the Police murder during that time period? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
216. I guess I can't see why this is on DU's front page |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
226. More crap from the "Violence Policy Center," |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
227. I see the DU gun lobby has been busy with the Unrecommend function..... |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:09 PM Response to Reply #227 |
235. By that logic, has the DU anti-gun lobby been busy with the Recommend function? n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #227 |
241. yeah ;) |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #241 |
245. Did you ever stop to think that maybe someone may not think something you post is particularly |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #245 |
253. but of course, the study I posted was not "particularly worthy of discussion" |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #253 |
256. I have no idea what the thread you're speaking of even consists of, iverglas, but I do know that it |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #256 |
259. here ya go |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #259 |
261. Jebus, iverglas...I don't give a shit about your other thread. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #261 |
262. that's a pretty dull point |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #262 |
264. Then feel free to lobby for an "unrec post" feature. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #264 |
271. why would I do that?? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #262 |
289. How can it be a "generalized practice" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #289 |
295. gosh |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #295 |
298. No need to be condescending, now. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #298 |
300. no, actually |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #300 |
339. I find this argument interesting |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #227 |
306. EVERY 90 seconds there is a gun crime committed in this country |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #306 |
309. How can people smoke so much weed and snort so much coke |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #309 |
310. People who smoke weed aren't committing gun crimes, you got your addictions mixed up |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #310 |
312. Banned! Weed is banned. Coke, hookers |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #312 |
318. Why are gun supporters anti-weed? Is it the peaceful feeling it brings? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #318 |
319. I LOOVE some Alabama Kush.. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #319 |
322. No one ever died from smoking weed |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #322 |
327. Or that rope that killed Carradine.. |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #327 |
351. I can see this is going no where, cya |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 11:53 AM Response to Reply #310 |
361. Those lovely fellows... |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
247. YAwn ...another unbalanced (like FOX) anti gun defense rant that should be in the gungeon. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #247 |
258. lying down with dogs |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
255. Why should you need a permit to do what the constitution allows you to do anyway? |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
257. VPC is a notorious bullshit factory, and I would not trust a word they |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #257 |
267. that's a pretty bold pot talking there |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #267 |
325. one week they want to ban guns, next week they don't = liars |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
265. Really how many died from food poisoning. I am so tired of this horse shit topic.. |
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noahfischer7971 (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
272. A UK perspective on Arms and the control of the mind in such situations |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #272 |
296. my goodness |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
277. What is N, Scum source does not list SAMPLE size, I assume millions (plural) |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
288. Extrapolating and Wondering |
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RollWithIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
304. All I can comment is with my experience in Florida since it has been passed here 2 yrs ago |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #304 |
311. Crimes committed with firearms, 2006 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #311 |
328. A minor, perhaps insignificant uptick in a long-term downward trend |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #311 |
336. Really? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #336 |
338. Shh.. I was hoping he would |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:03 PM Response to Reply #311 |
340. And yet gun crime as a whole has plummeted since 1993 |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
323. More LEO's murdered their gf/fiance/wife/fellow officers in that time period, so |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
329. Those are remarkably low numbers I thought they would have been much higher. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
331. So 51 incidents out of what? |
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-20-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
347. Nice hit and run post |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
358. Weasel article. nt |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
363. "or suicide of the shooter". Why, I guess that makes it a criminal homicide then |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
364. Fill your hand you son of a..... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-21-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #364 |
367. lol, nice :D |
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