Any guesses on how long it will take before they ask for their knives?

[Deadric Damodred]

This is the slippery slope of banning guns. So first they banned handguns, then they banned them all. Then they banned any use of anything in self-defense, calling it an "offensive weapon". So now they have knife crime, and at one time a group of doctors advocated banning pointed kitchen knives. Well here you go, Britian's first "anti-stab knife":

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6501720.ece

Any guess on how long it will take before these are mass-produced in a cheap manner and the UK demands everyone turn in their pointed kitchen knives? You KNOW it's going to happen; the question is when?

[Towlie]

1. Someone designs a safer kitchen tool and you don't like it. Unbelievable!

[pipoman]

4. It is stupid,

while there may be some utility to the knife, there is no such thing as the do-all-wonder-knife anymore than the tools advertised to replace an entire toolbox can live up to that claim. Some knives are pointed for a reason. Knives have been pointed for a reason since man first invented them 10s of thousands of years ago. Utility is lost without a point.

[Deadric Damodred]

6. I didn't say I don't like it.

If some mother wants it in her home because she wants to feel like her young children are safer, I'm all for that. All I'm saying is we have seen how nuts the UK is about controlling it's subjects...yes they are subjects, not civilians, as they are at the mercy of the UK as to what rights they have, which are subject to change on a dime's notice...and judging how they love to ban things, it's probably a good guess that as soon as they can get these new knives up and running, they'll demand a "knife turn-in" just like they had a "gun turn-in". It shouldn't be long before their subjects are required to wear large quantities of cotton all over their bodies to protect them from everything.

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[patriotvoice]

3. Killing someone with a knife isn't so much about stabbing.

It's called sneak and slit. This knife still has a blade. It is a perfectly functional weapon.

"It can never be a totally safe knife, but the idea is you can't inflict a fatal wound. Nobody could just grab one out of the kitchen drawer and kill someone."

I'm betting he's not SAS.

[Tim01]

8. In all fariness, most thugs are probably not trained.

But these goofy knives will probably not make a difference that can be measured in anything except wasted money.
And money, specifically the economy, probably has more effect on violent crime than all other causes combined.

[Merchant Marine]

10. I've got a serrated work knife

That was designed by tugboat crews to cut tow hawsers in an emergency. It can go through 4 inches of kevlar brain in seconds. I don't want to know what it would do to flesh.

[Merchant Marine]

13. I would like to note

That I meant "Braid" as in braided line, not "brain". Dang typoes.

[Tim01]

5. I'll guess within 10 years. Bets? nt

[Deadric Damodred]

7. Two to Three

[Tim01]

9. It really is sad. England is laughable now instead of respected. nt

[Euromutt]

12. It's even worse than this

British supermarket chain Tesco requires proof of age to buy silverware: http://direct.tesco.com/q/N.1999430/Nr.99.aspx

Asda similarly requires proof of age before it'll let you buy teaspoons: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/11/asda_teaspoons/

Teaspoons!

You know, much as I dislike the term "nanny state," it got to the point some time ago that there's really else you can call the UK.

[iverglas]

18. I've wondered every time I've seen this noise

What, exactly, does an apparently silly corporate policy (although I'd be willing to bet it was actually silly employees) have to do with any state at all?

Tesco and Asda (the name of WalMart in the UK) are, so far as I know, still considered to be non-state actors.

Has WalMart taken over the world when I wasn't looking?

[Tim01]

11. Those things are going to SUCK for cutting meat.

I do a fair amount of butchering. And the knife is all about the point when it comes to meat.
It will be fine for vegetarians, and how perfect is that?
But that tip will be worthless for turning big pieces of meat into managable meat. That tip won't go into the ball joint to cut tendons. And it won't sink in to probe along bones. It won't go through the muscle of the rib cage. There is a long list of things that knife won't do.

[Statistical]

14. Maybe butcher shops can

get a permit for a real knife and be required to install a govt approved safe and keep all their real knives in there.

Attend annual training on real knife usage.
Register each real knife by serial number.
Get a License for each real knife operator (all butcher shop employees must pass a background check).
Have insurance policy on any wrong doing committed with knives.

Then all meat will be sold precut into boneless bite sized chunks and Britons won't need real knives.
See there always is a solution.


"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy"

[Howzit]

15. Do you think the non-stab knife could still be used to cut off major arteries in a person's neck?

Stabbing is only one problem, slashing is another. Both start with the will to injure. A ball point pen could be used if the perp is motivated.

[Deadric Damodred]

16. Bad bad bad victim...

...in the UK you're being a BAD victim if you were to use a ball point pen to stab an attacker. You would be charged with using an "offensive weapon", the intruder would be used as a witness against you, you would get jail time for your vicious disgusting want to defend yourself, and the intruder would be able to sue you for all your worth.

[spin]

17. But since "they " are having trouble banning guns, "they'" are now after knives...

just check out this recent post on DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=227732&mesg_id=227732