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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:23 PM Original message |
James Von Brunn was a convicted felon, I want to know where he got his gun. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm not a long gun expert but I don't THINK there's a 4473 check on them. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Yes |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Stand corrected. Thanks. |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. One reason. |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Live and learn. Thanks. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 04:12 AM Response to Reply #12 |
59. Waiting periods |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
65. Also PR. Handguns are used in majority of crimes. |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Federally... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It's either a crime or the NICS checks need to be tightened immediately. |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Yes and no. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. He could have also had it since 1967 in his garage. No telling. |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Good point. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. According to police sources it was a Winchster 1908-1930's |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
39. I would prefer that every felon who fails an NICS be hunted down and prosecuted....... |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #39 |
70. Remember Janet Reno said the Brady Law was symbolic |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
63. prior to 1968 |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
66. It currently is impossible for individuals to lookup NICS records. |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. If he purchased his firearm from a dealer |
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smaug (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. Dealer or seller should face charges, regardless |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Exactly what charge? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. We do need to open up the NICS to private sellers... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Agreed, but not mandatory (at fed level).. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Voluntary would be fine with me... |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Same here. |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Investigated yes. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. tridim |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Deleted message |
FarPoint (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Relax now... |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. exploitive or not...... |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. First thing's first... |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I would imagine that they do get some attention paid to them |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
42. I agree with you 100% |
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abluelady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
11. A Gun Show? |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. That I CAN answer |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Incorrect |
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BigBluenoser (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
22. Looks like the dude was a hard core and venerable saint... |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. And that's exactly why more strict gun control is a good thing. |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. What gun control do you propose that would impact a motorcycle gang? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Less guns on the street = less illegal guns available for purchase. nt |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. By that logic fewer cars equals less drunk driving. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. We're talking about guns, not cars. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. It's called an analogy. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. What laws? |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. The scum bag... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. What "stricter laws"? Please be specific. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Yes, let's restrict a legal option because attacking the illegal one is harder.. |
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inkool (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. How would you propose... |
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BigBluenoser (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
56. Is the OP the "guns with bling" dude?? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. What gun control do you propose that would impact a motorcycle gang? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. Less cannabis sold at pharmacies = less cannabis available for purchase. |
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Raskolnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #28 |
69. You're jumping to your desired outcome. What *method* do you propose to reach that outcome? |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I think you are right. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. Never miss an opportunity to turn people's personal tragedies into your political soapbox. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. I just don't want anyone else to die. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I noticed your complete failure to mention the victims that you are so concerned about. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. I didn't see you post a thread |
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tucsonlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Kettle/Black n/t |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. You finally understand, that's nice to see. |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
41. If the gun was purchased illegally |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
47. The rifle appears to have been a .22 rimfire, possibly a squirrel rifle. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. What a total waste... |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Agreed. (n/t) |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Link? |
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robrtolson (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
52. Where did he get the gun!!!!!! |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. OMG. You can buy them on the street. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Since we don't know where he got the gun.. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #52 |
68. "All Von Brunn need to do was go to a gun show." |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
53. Like they're hard to get. n/t |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. You know I agree that guns are relatively easy to get and I don't really have an issue with this.... |
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BigBluenoser (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. You are hanging out with the wrong community... |
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cslinger59 (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. I have shot ALOT of full auto in my life (Legally) |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
71. You know it's legal for felons to own certain guns? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Only muzzleloaders, or breechloaders made prior to 1898 (not replicas). |
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