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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:22 PM
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Why isn't this called the 'firearms' forum. I've always been told that's the correct term. nt
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:40 PM
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1. This is my rifle, this is my gun! nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:44 PM
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3. This one's for fighting, this one's for fun....nt
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:41 PM
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2. We don't believe in PC here - we have a lot of gun owners
who seem mainly to refer to them as guns, and some antis who seem to like to call them firearms.

Whatever floats your boat - Democrats don't seem to agree on much most of the time.....

mark
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:45 PM
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4. A friend who is devoted to firearms and helped develop the Uzi and another who is
a retired Marine colonel, so I'm not familiar with the 'PC' aspects of this term.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:47 PM
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6. The Uzi was developed in Israel by Uzi Galil - You seem to have an atitude problem...
I hope you have a great day.

mark
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:34 PM
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7. This fellow was a general in the Israeli Army.
So, there.

I sincerely wondered about the terms. I have been told by firearm users that 'firearm' is the correct term.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:03 PM
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9. It's easy for long time DUers to get testy on questions like yours. Just note the hysteria
in DU over CA's Supreme Court upholding Prop 8 and in its opinion declaring same-sex marriage was not an "inalienable right".

Some who posted angry statements about the CA opinion are strident supporters of laws that prohibit the right to keep and bear arms, an inalienable/unalienable or pre-existing right protected by the Second Amendment just like rights protected by the First and Fourth.

IMO government is obligated to protect all inalienable rights because that is the only defense against a minority has against the tyranny of a simple majority that would exist in a purely democratic government.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 12:21 PM
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14. Firearm is the technically correct term
"Firearms Dungeon" does not have the ring to it that "Gungeon" has for people who want to disparage firearms owners. Why is it that you are concerned with terminology?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:04 PM
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5. The issue is "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" but the anti-crowd apparently believes it has
propaganda value to call it it "Guns".

RKBA is a "civil right" but threads discussing RKBA are not allowed in the "Civil Liberties" forum.

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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:45 PM
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8. I'm partial to "boomstick". nt
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 09:00 PM
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10. I prefer the term firearm.
It reinforces the concept of Right to Keep and Bear Arms. Firearms being the current incarnation of arms (at least until energy weapons replace them in hundred years or so).

Most legal texts and statutes refer to them as firearms. It is the technical name.

Guns is more a slang term.

The antis love the term gun.
"Gun Violence", "Gun Deaths", "Gun problem", "Gungeon".

Firearm Violence somehow lacks that emotional appeal.

When I was in Basic Training calling a rifle or pistol a "gun" was a mistake you didn't make twice. The only weapon that is a "gun" is a machinegun. That concept kinda stuck.

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:08 PM
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11. It's really very simple
.
.
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Guns is only one syllable

Many of us are linguistically challenged

:dunce:

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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 09:19 AM
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12. The correct terms don't matter here
Clips are not magazines
Assault weapons are not assault rifles
Assault weapons are not Automatic weapons
A barrel shroud goes over the barrel to allow heat dissipation and safe handling


Once we finally get people to stop confusing assault weapons with assault rifles, we can work on getting everyone to call them firearms.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 10:34 AM
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13. Well said, ignorance re RKBA is like fighting Kudzu, a never ending battle.
:toast:
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 01:02 PM
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15. The confusion between clips and magazines...
drives me crazy. Even experienced shooters are confusing the terms. I get tired of explaining the difference.
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Deadric Damodred Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 01:47 PM
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17. I think you are mistaken.
I believe Carolyn McCarthy has done her homework and knows what she is talking about. A barrel shroud is a shoulder thing that goes up. And that is that.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 04:02 PM
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18. They are the ones used to kill cops too...
Also Machine guns are unrestricted and 90% of guns in Mexico came from gun dealers in America. Mexican drug gangs are getting grenades and automatic weapons from America dealers.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 08:15 PM
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19. You are mistaken.
Machine guns are very restricted. Since the legal supply is fixed, they are very expensive due to the demain remaining high.

Grenades and automatic weapons are generally not available from American dealers. And if they were available, they would be hellishly expensive. Why pay $12000 for an M-16 when you can get a full auto AK-47 for $400 from any Latin American country.

USA made auto weapons being found in Mexico are coming from the Mexican government (army and police) who bought them from the US government.

Any USA made semi-auto weapons found in Mexico probably did come from American dealers via straw purchasers.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:23 PM
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20. Pst: I think Taitertots & Maniac Joe were being sarcastic. n/t
Edited on Thu May-28-09 09:24 PM by Statistical
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 09:28 PM
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21. Hard to tell in a written forum.
Sarcasm does not carry well in writing without the visual cues of the smilies.
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dashrif Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 01:10 PM
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16. Reminds me
Edited on Wed May-27-09 01:11 PM by dashrif
of this "Why are you the only private in my Army that has a gun"

edit: for spelling
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