NEWSDAY: Carolyn McCarthy to unveil new semi-auto ban next week

[derby378]

Since her appointment to the Senate, one-time NRA favorite Kirsten Gillibrand has passed just about every test on guns set by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy - but that might change next week.

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But McCarthy said that next week she plans to introduce an assault weapons ban - legislation that is anathema to the NRA and that could pose a problem for Gillibrand.

"I think the assault weapons bill will be a test," McCarthy said Wednesday in an interview.

Gillibrand had no comment Wednesday on legislation that hasn't been introduced, said her spokesman Matt Canter.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usguns0712738461may06,0,977427.story

[ensho]

1. thank you McCarthy

assault weapons have no place in a home

or in the hands of drunks

[bossy22]

2. whats an assault weapon?

plz tell me

and i'd like to know why they have no place in the home?

i'd like to add that in some legislation this


is considered an assault weapon

it is a remington 870 pump action shotgun which happens to be one of the top sellers as a home defense gun

[derby378]

6. Please share

A pump-action shotgun officially classified as an "assault weapon?" Who? Where?

[X_Digger]

9. Possibly HR 1022?

(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.

Cops & military carry pump shotguns, so..

(It's a stretch, but not beyond the "logic" of some of these folks.)

[derby378]

20. Hmmm...

"...or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm..."

I think I see your point in that the word semiautomatic is missing from that particular clause. But it would be a stretch.

[Abq_Sarah]

31. "as determined by the Attorney General"

Is the problem. Holder is not a friend of the 2nd amendment to the Constitution.

[jmg257]

8. On the contrary, they have a few places in my home. And you need not concern yourself unless you

plan on entering uninvited.

(BTW, they do NOT have a place by the beer fridge!)

[inkool]

13. What does being drunk...

have to do with the topic at hand?

Also are assault weapons the only thing bad for drunks to have? Would it be ok for a drunk to have a hunting rifle in hand?

Just to be clear what in your opinion is an assault weapon?

[rl6214]

18. You really have no fucking clue

what you are talking about, do you?

[benEzra]

22. The most popular civilian rifles in America have no place in U.S. homes?

What, exactly, do you think the "assault weapon" fraud actually covers? Military weapons?

This is an "assault weapon" according to the Senator:



My wife and I will keep our "assault weapons," thanks.

[SteveM]

29. 'Hope she accepted the GOP consultant fee (nt)

[bossy22]

3. let her

it will get 50-60 co-sponsors and go no where

[Tim01]

4. Here comes another round of panic buying.

[dashrif]

5. boo

It's a test alright one that may sink the party, but that bullpup and combat stance with fishnet is insane.

[jmg257]

7. The last version of her AWB was a real piece of shit. Let's hope this one goes nowhere faster.

Here are some lowlights...

Reduce allowable scary features to 1:
(D) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine, and that has--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a threaded barrel;
(iii) a pistol grip;
(iv) a forward grip; or
(v) a barrel shroud.

limited mag caps:
(G) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

included many basic shotguns:
(H) A semiautomatic shotgun that has--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip;
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine; or
(iv) a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.

added all kinds of great old weapons like the M1 Carbine, the M1 & M1A:
(A)The following rifles or copies or duplicates thereof:
(xi) M1 Carbine;

(L) A semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General. In making the determination, there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any Federal law enforcement agency is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event.'.



Fuck off McCarthy. I hope Gillibrand makes you choke on your dumb-ass & unconstitutional 'test'.

[MercutioATC]

23. I see they finally dropped "bayonet mount" from the language.

Guess bayoneting deaths are down...

[virginia mountainman]

10. I see Caroline McCarthy edging out..

HRC and Eric Holder in the "NRA Membership and Gun Sale Drive "...

Also, let me state some facts here..

She does not have a CLUE, what this legislation does, but this is to be expected from a "former" Republican...

Yea, lets trot her out in front of the TV Cameras, so she can put her stupidity on display...again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

[RamboLiberal]

11. I cut her a break even though I'm a gun owner and against this ban

Consider it stupid.

But she did have her husband killed and her son seriously wounded in the Long Island Railroad shooting. Just like I cut Jim Brady and his wife a break.

[virginia mountainman]

14. I can cut her a break too..

When she stops monkeying around in my gun case.

Until then, people with her views own guns, and support her IS the enemy...

I WILL, do all I can to oppose her, and Sara Brady's minions.

Be it letter writing, phone calls, financial donations, "on the ground work" or even posting her...

It will be done...

[inkool]

15. What happed was a tragedy

but the tragedy did not make her an expert on the matter. It is apparent by her public statements that she does not have an understanding of firearms or existing firearm laws.

I can not cut someone a break when they want to pass laws based on emotions not facts that will affect a large number of people.

[rl6214]

17. Colin Furgeson killed those people

with a 9mm handgun. WTF does that have to do with an assault weapon ban? Her lifes mission is to get a permanent AWB when "assault weapons" had nothing to do with the shootings she was involved with.

[jody]

12. Sorry, I overlooked your earlier OP. Below is my statement from my later OP.

The anti-RKBA team wants Gillibrand to join Schumer (NY), Kennedy/Kerry (MA) and Feinstein/Boxer (CA) to destroy one of our pre-existing rights that government is obligated to protect as enumerated in the First, Second, and Fourth Amendments.

The six votes by senators from NY-MA-CA on the anti-RKBA side will be nullified with six votes from WY, MT, and SD senators for the pro-RKBA side.

Gillibrand was elected with pro-RKBA support. It’s a sign of respect to dance with whomever brought you to the dance.

[jody]

16. K&R with unrealistic optimism that at least one DUer will learn a wee bit about RKBA, a divisive,

polarizing political issue for which IMO there is no possible compromise between (a) those who would prohibit a pre-existing right protected by our Constitution and (b) those who support allowing each citizen to decide whether she/he exercises that right.

Examples of such issues for which IMO compromise is impossible between prohibition groups and choice groups are:
- Abortion
- GLBT rights
- RKBA

[Israfel4]

19. You know.......

if her husband and son had been "saved" by someone with a handgun/firearm she probably wouldn't be pushing this crap right now.

[Irreverend IX]

21. It may be for the best...

If her new ban bill is as far-reaching as the last, there's no chance of it passing and it'll act as flypaper for anti-gun legislators who might otherwise write bills that do have a chance of passing.

[Iktomiwicasa]

24. Her bill

will be a "thing that goes up"......in smoke.

[benEzra]

25. That thumping sound you hear...

is the sound of heads banging against the wall on Capitol Hill. I'm sure the repubs are in high glee that she's working so hard to resurrect the "Dems'll-take-yer-guns" message and at the same time sandbag Kirsten Gillibrand.

I guess the moral fiber of the nation MUST be cleansed from those evil protruding rifle handgrips and "shoulder things that go up", at any cost...

[Redneck Socialist]

26. Oh, it'll be a test all right...

a test of how badly it goes down in defeat. I doubt it will even make it out of committee, much less come up for a full vote.

[gorfle]

27. Yes, the brilliant Senator McCarthy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U

Imminently qualified to compose firearm legislation.

[jody]

28. "Ignorance is a curable disease, stupidity is a terminal illness" and McCarthy is VERY ILL! n/t

[quiller4]

30. A good reason to support Gillibrand. n/t