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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:26 PM Original message |
Four individuals, CalGuns.net, Second Amendment Foundation sue California over handgun restrictions |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. OooooooH |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. this has nothing to do with bazooka's |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:29 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. The problem you have in CA is two fold in nature. First the laws are not going to be changed for one |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. you misunderstand very much |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. You have a right not to be shot |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. Good. I certainly hope the plaintiffs win this one - California's |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. This has ramifications for DC's current handgun law |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Tell me about it... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. One of the local gun dealers was talking about California's system |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
60. Your local gun dealer is a bit misinformed |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Honestly, he was a nice enough guy, but he seemed to be rather confused |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. This case proves the pro-RKBA community must fight more aggressively to preserve our win in Heller. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
23. What win? Heller was one city. You still cant own handguns in NYC or Chicago. Heller proves nothing |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. So Roe v. Wade is void because it happened under the Nixon Administration? |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Roe vs Wade effected the whole country. "Heller" simply does not. If Heller were accepted as fact |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Heller does in that the 2ndA has been affirmed to protect a right of individuals... |
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SecularNATION (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. machine-guns? |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Have you ever heard of Incorporation??? |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. This is the ignorance of many in my state... |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. shows how much you know |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Technically, no, NYC doesn't ban handguns. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. hmm |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. Who is proposing letting criminals, felons and mentally ill people have easy access to firearms? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Thank goodness your post is not representative of the anti-RKBA crowd, their posts have a modicum of |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. its called incorporation |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
7. Gun violence as public health issue: |
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yay (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. OK, and what exactly does this have to do with the topic at hand? N/T |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. i dont think that the handgun roster really affects public safety |
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Pullo (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. DRIVE-BY!!! Everybody duck!!! |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. ?? |
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yay (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Drive by postings are raping the churches and burning the women!! |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Death by automobile is a much more serious "public health issue". n/t |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Rudolph |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And here I was thinking of Dasher... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 03:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. I guess about everything is a public health issue then. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. The "public health" argument goes all the way back to alcohol prohibition. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. so we simply ignore the body count outright? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. The "safe handgun" roster has no relation to body counts |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Recognizing that rifle handgrip bans or shiny-finish restrictions |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. No |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. so -- drunks operating cars, okay, since cars are legal. Unstable people |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I thought you were better than that. My opinion of you was misguided. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. instead of launching attacks, can you just answer a goddamn question? |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Not launching an attack, just re-evaluting my opinion of you based on your arguments, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:35 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Deleted message |
TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. We already have laws against people owning guns. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. We have laws to keep firearms out of the hands of people who have shown a propensity to misuse them. |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Public safety is an issue that trumps individual rights. Its been that way for many years too. n/t |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Is that so? |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Well, that's what Bush said, but I'm surprised to see that argument taken seriously here. |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
50. not always |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Since most gun deaths are suicides what individual right do you wish to take. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. The California "safe handgun" list has nothing to do with public health |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. What does that have to do with the choices available to handgun buyers in California? |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. What can possibly be wrong with this law. Keeps guns away from the nuts. nt |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. So anyone who seeks counseling for depression is a "nut" in your book? |
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cabluedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Talk about a red herring. Many people who are nuts never seek help. Thats why they are so paranoid . |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. There you go again, unsupported assertions & ad hominem attacks, ignorance won't trump knowledge. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Did you even read the proposal you endorsed? |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I guess anyone that followes this FEMA guidline would be a "nut" in your book? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. You are obviously not informed about this topic |
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bossy22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. you need to read up on the handgun roster law |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. In your own words, *how* does the CA register keep "guns away from the nuts"? |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. I don't trust anything with Alan Gottlieb's name attached to it |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-02-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thanks for the "contextualizing" background! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Sure, but is he wrong about this? |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. LOL but I trust.. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #16 |
62. Dismissing anything associated with a person you don't like is a lot easier than thinking |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
57. Good luck Slack, and all other freedom loving Californians, |
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