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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:17 PM
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Poll question: I know nothing about grenades, should I be allowed to buy one in your opinion?
I am 34 years old, I live in Montana, I have no criminal record and no known mental health problems (unless you count being a total nerd).
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:19 PM
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1. I think you should at least have to take a grenades safety course
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:24 PM
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2. I have taken firearm safety courses, but they were designed for hunters.
Due to my ignorance on the subject of grenades, I would feel very nervous having one in my house.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:24 PM
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3. I'm gonna go ahead and draw the line at grenades. n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:29 PM
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4. Either your poll is a joke or you are not qualified under 26 USC 5861 and 18 USC 922
to legally possess such items.

See 18 USC 922
(g) It shall be unlawful for any person— 
(1) who has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year;
(2) who is a fugitive from justice;
(3) who is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802));
(4) who has been adjudicated as a mental defective or who has been committed to a mental institution;
(5) who, being an alien—
(A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or
(B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26)));
(6) who has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions;
(7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship;
(8) who is subject to a court order that—
(A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had an opportunity to participate;
(B) restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child; and
(C)
(i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or
(ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or
(9) who has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence,
to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearm or ammunition; or to receive any firearm or ammunition which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.

I'll assume your poll is a joke, :rofl:
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exothermic Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:40 PM
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5. Sure, why not? Get yourself some. Be sure to pull out the firing pin though.
...
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:43 PM
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6. And throw the pin as far away as possible. n/t
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:54 PM
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8. lol
ass
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:01 PM
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9. I thought your name was ZombieHorde? It's certainly not lol so I'll accept your self-identification.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:12 PM
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11. lol again
You know what they say, you are what you eat.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:15 PM
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12. That's the voice of experience speaking. n/t
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:17 PM
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13. You better believe it. Munch munch.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:47 PM
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7. It's your $200 transfer tax
And ATF background check. You've seen enough movies and TV to know the basics. It's not like they require maintenence or anything.



In terms of storage, if it goes off accidently then it's no more dangerous than, say, a can of rifle ammo, a propane tank, or a can of gasoline.
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:03 PM
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10. And now that you've got that cool new grenade...
You might want to check the time delay of the fuse.A "0" second fuse (intended for booby traps and the like) might just ruin your whole day. Just a thought.:(
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:20 PM
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14. Dont forget the delivery system too ....
You'll want to have the latest targeting and propellant devices too ....

There is no other law beyond the 2nd Amendment ....
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:21 PM
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15. Remember
Thou shalt count to three ... no more, no less.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:43 PM
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16. That bunny got what it deserved!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:01 AM
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21. Well, it was dynamite...
:-)
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 06:45 PM
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17. If there is an individual right to bear arms I think
you should be able to obtain any arms up to and including a nuclear powered and armed submarine. No grenades - you'll blow your arms off and then you won't be able to bear them.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:01 PM
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18. It's your tax stamp
You're the one who would have to go through the paperwork and trouble to buy one, but if you want one, if you've never had an opportunity to chuck a couple uniform and want to see what all the hoo-hah is about, go ahead. Be sure to wear adequate hearing protection though, and have some COVER to get behind. Like, something made of concrete that has no chance of being penetrated by a piece of grenade. They are LOUD, and the concussion might give you a nasty case of hiccups. If you've never been around any explosives going off before, it's an experience.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:25 PM
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19. I suggest you consider a nuclear hand grenade...
I hear they're real effective. Of course you have to be able to throw them a long way.
':sarcasm:'
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:48 PM
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20. Silly Zombie
Grenades are for kids.


Anyway, voted yes, on the following assumptions: You are legally qualified to own one, they are legal to own where you live, and jump through all of the BATFE's hoops and fees, etc.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:03 AM
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22. As long as you can pass the Federal Title 2/Class III authorization process and get a Form 4...
then you can. Those are the same restrictions that control howitzers, 500-lb bombs, machineguns, sound-suppressed weapons, and actual assault rifles, FWIW.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:53 AM
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23. Yeah, the NFA takes all the fun out of it.
The allure of all those goodies kind of fades when you realize you can, indeed, get them with the proper application of cash. The NFA is really not a bad law even though the '86 "ban" on new manufacture of certain items is a drag. Legally held NFA items aren't really a big deal since they almost never show up at a crime scene. Criminals don't take the time and money to obey laws like that, they just go to town with whatever junk they get and call it good.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:25 AM
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24. If you only want one, make it a holy one
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 10:26 AM by JustABozoOnThisBus

and get the t-shirt so everyone knows you're armed.



:hi:
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JMackT Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:26 AM
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25. Yes
What are you waiting for?
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:53 AM
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26. Only if the Zombies are coming.
Then it would be okay.

David
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:27 PM
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27. Enough about my love life!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 12:40 PM
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28. You are allowed to
Get the background check, buy the license, pay the tax, and find a dealer who sells them.

It's a PITA but it's hardly impossible.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 05:42 PM
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29. Not very complicated
Remove clip on handel. Pull pin, throw. Much simpler than driving a car.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:29 PM
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30. Not so fast there, Retired AF Dem
You were not clear at all. Now, do you mean "throw the grenade"? Or "throw the pin". It makes a difference, you know.

I think instructions and warnings need to be printed on each grenade. Like every new gun has stamped on the barrel: "read the manual first".

:rofl:

Anyway, I think it's "Pull pin, throw, DUCK!!!"
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:03 PM
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31. You must be a Ruger owner
:) How do Eskimos pass the long winter nights? They read their Rugers.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 07:23 PM
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32. Eskimo joke!!! You do a tour at Thule, AF?
It always looked like a good reason to be Army.
:hi:
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:10 PM
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35. Never did a tour at Thule
I did go to Brim Frost near Fairbanks in 84. It is a winter training exercise.
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Longtooth Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 05:38 PM
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37. I think only Ruger is required to put the warning on the barrel
do to that lawsuit from the dumbass that didn't know bullets come out the end.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-18-08 02:59 AM
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38. As of 2003 claymores still said "Front: Towards Enemy"
I love that.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:28 PM
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33. A "well-regulated militia" is, by necessity, well-educated
This isn't exactly a Wild Cactus fireworks pod you're talking about. I think you should learn everything you can about the safe storage, handling, and use of fragmentation grenades before applying for that NFA license.
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tburnsten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 01:40 PM
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34. Well he'll learn
all he needs to know about them, one way or another.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 04:56 PM
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36. I believe all grenades should be "fragmentation fingerprinted"
I believe all grenades should be "fragmentation fingerprinted".

This process would consist of detonating each grenade prior to sale, photographing all the fragments, storing the photographs with the police, and then selling the grenade.
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