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Indy Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 05:02 PM
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Chicken and the Egg
Chicken and the Egg


It seems like there is a chicken and the egg problem with DC reading of the second ammendment.

How can militia members (Armed Citizens) bring their arms when called upon, if they don't have them in the first place.

If we applied this logic to the 1st amendment, we would have the right to assemble, but only as a collective right, never as individuals. There would never be a first person to assemble, individuals could never approach an assembly, if it's only a collective right.

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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 07:29 PM
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1. They can't - which is why their argument is SO stupid! Like John Adams REALLY gave
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 07:30 PM by jmg257
up his right to arms, along with ALL the other framers and founders and state legislators and many other civil servants - simply because they were exempt from Militia duty...(all this just AFTER fighting the revolution!)

Wonder if they were expected to give up their arms the moment they took office, just to buy new ones when they retired? (of course if they were over 44, then they would be to old, and so wouldn't have that right either). {SARCASM}

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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 08:20 PM
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2. It appears that...
Most of the gun banners buy into the collective citizenship model. No deviation can be allowed,
in either thought or deed. Personal or familial protection thus becomes the responsibility of
the police or or other governmental agency even though no such obligation exists unless one
is in the custody of the aforementioned agencies. The differences of positions on the
issue of private ownership of firearms can be summed up quite simply. I would force no
one to possess or carry a gun. There are some, however, who would force me to surrender mine.
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