Iraq war "noble"? What I say when I hear that...

[detroitguy]

...when GOPers tell me how "proud " they feel that the U.S. has "done such a wonderful thing for the Iraqi people":

Bush's stated goal was to eliminate the "vast stockpiles" of WMDs. He failed miserably. You can't get around that. The stated primary goal -- the one that justified using force -- was not achieved.

This invasion MIGHT end up creating a good end result for the Iraqis (though the election results there indicate that they also might end up with an Iran-style regime). But the cost to the Iraqis was huge: 100,000-plus civilian deaths caused by people whose "help" they never asked for.

And even if Iraq does come out better in the end... was it worth it to us? Remember, the U.S. military exists to protect OUR country. And I don't see how anyone can say that the threat from Iraq was so great that it justified what we did and the huge cost we paid (which is still rising).

Look, there are lots of bad countries out there. But never before in our history did a president ever suggest that it was out job to play God and "fix" them. If we're going to start doing that, we'll be at war for a VERY long time. And out nation will end up bankrupt.

The Iraq war was a mistake.

[McKenzie]

1. see my post immediately below yours

The articles discuss the real reasons for war. They have absolutely sweet Fanny Adams to do with wmd's.

[detroitguy]

2. I tend to agree...

...that oil and the chance to hand out no-bid contracts was at the heart of the decision to invade. But my post had more to do with responding to the Kppl-Aid drinking Buah-ites who see nothing but "freedom on the march" in Iraq. Bush's own stated goals are all one needs to examine to determine that the war was a failure.

[SHRED]

4. Fact is...

shrub would not have gotten the votes to go in on a "spreading democracy" rap.

These shrub lovers still look at the mideast as a bunch of "ragheads" and "sand niggers". Their warm fuzzy feeling over purple finger voting is a scam. It is all about shrubya right or wrong.

[Mikimouse]

3. It was noble all right...

Noble, of course defined as taking the most progressive nation in the area, with a secular government to boot, and turning it into a pile of rubble and a theocratic state. we should all be so proud.

[CrispyQ]

5. You're talking about the US, right?

sarcasm off

Everything Boosh touches turns to shit. He's such an asshole. I really do loathe him.

[Mikimouse]

6. I'm with you. It would be one thing is he was just 'unlucky'...

but I think that he and his cromies knew that this would happen. They are, in fact, probably hoping that Iraq will end up as a Theocracy, so they can then occupy it competely and attack Iran as well, to 'promote stability in the ME'. Sounds like a plan to me. I could just scream!

[pretzel4gore]

7. if that make you scream, lookit this:

the busheviks staged a planned coup on nov7/00 followed up by (blackmailed) supreme court judges scalia and thomas giving boosh the election despite losing the vote; all this was run past the american people very carefully in a planned media operation (remember the networks saying outright 'gore won florida? a few hours before fox'news' suddenly announced the opposite, thus disarming anti bush forces for several critical hours)..... and this put boosh in debt to the media managers, who already exposed their nazipoo agenda with the clinton 'impeachment'....911 of course blew up any bridge the mediawhores had to return to sanity or legality, and it permanently blackmailed the mass media (even alarming such nazipoo types as pat buchanan!) forcing them into a 'press on to total victory or total ruin' scenerio (trotsky said this after bolshevik extremeist murdered the russian emporor and his 4 bootiful/innocent daughters in 1917) which will almost certainly destroy the country, if that already hasn't happened
:argh: