The Russian authorities support terrorists and Nazists!?

[doctorus]

Breaking news from Russia,
or
Soon the Fascist state will appear in Europe!

The future of democracy in Russia is over the threat!!!

After Russia was overflowed with a wave of terrorism, which has
carried away several hundreds of human lives (especially after
hostage-taking in Beslan), many questions appeared.

The first question:
Who is guilty?
The answer is obvious: the terrorist organizations.
And not only the international, but the internal Russian terrorist
organizations as well. We know for sure, that FSB had been informed about the terroristic acts when they had been only planned yet, a long in advance that they would really occur. The Red Square 'anti-terrorist' rally had been planned at least several weeks before its beginning.

But there is yet another question as well:
To whom the terrorism in Russia is profitable?
This time the answer is not so simple.
It looks like terror is profitable not only for terrorists, but
to Russian authorities as well, which manage to take a political
benefit from tragical events.

The first benefit is the justification to refusal of democracy
and totalitarian change of political system.

The other benefit is quite fantastic at first, but nevertheless
it is real: the justification to the nazi party creation!
After the well-known acts of terrorism have
been occurred, there was a reciprocal wave of anti-Caucasian
indignations (including the criminal ones) and public meetings
under nazist slogans. (It seems they were coordinated from the
united center.) This wave of 'people's wrath' - and really of
moslems suppression - mobilized all previously sleeping
Russian nationalist (truly fascist) public movements, both
legal and illegal.
As the result, creation of a nazi party by the Kremlin is
expected soon! It will be constructed on the basis of one of
existing legal parties (LDPR, the so-called 'liberal democrats', who are no nor liberals, nor democrats in real life!). The newborn political movement will be called 'The Russian Revanche'.
It's future role is the justification and support of the government
nazi-oriented steps in the foreign and internal policy, which would
be made this way by Russian authorities 'according to the demand
of people'. This is the way by which our elite tries to prevent
possible desintegration of state (as it happened perviously with
the former Soviet Union)

A little more time - and the new fascist state will appear in
Europe! That will produce dangerous consequences for the civilized world. Can you imagine the nazi Germany of 1945 with an atomic bomb?

Doctor Sandomirsky
24.09.2004

Source: Psihi.ru e-zine
link: http://www.psihi.ru/funny/news/rusnaz.htm

[JuniorPlankton]

1. Psihi.ru?

Loonies indeed!

[doctorus]

3. loonies?

not at all. They are the group of free democratic journalists, who call themselves 'psihi' to avoid official pressure and censorship. You know, the freedom of speech is significantly restricted in Russia now. Russian President, who is Bush's friend, has very specific views on democracy (as former KGB officer)

[russian33]

2. There's so much nonsense in this post, I don't know where to start

Two things that struck me most:

1. We know for sure, that FSB had been informed about the terroristic acts
Who are we, and how do we know for sure?

2. The other benefit is quite fantastic at first, but nevertheless
it is real: the justification to the nazi party creation!

That's such an irresponsible and insulting comment, I'm at a loss of words. To accuse a country that suffered horribly at the hands of nazis, of a nazi party creation, sponsored by the government...that's BS! Handful of skinheads doesn't make a nazy party!

There have always been problems/issues between some Russians and people from the Caucases region, but it's just same as some whites here having problem with black people, it's a group, not an entire state.

I'm going to stop typing now.

[JuniorPlankton]

4. Exactly!

Even though I agree Russia is going downhill.

[doctorus]

5. two things

About the first - there were no comments in the source.
About the second - you are quite right. Russian people suffered from nazis in the WWII and lost more then 20 mln. people.
But - the so called 'national-patriotic' political movements in modern Russia inherited the real fascist ideology. About skinheads - there are more then 200 000 of them in Russia...
And what can you sau about the anti-caucasian 'pogroms' (acts of ethnical vandalism, etc.) in many of russian cities after the Beslan tragedy?

[russian33]

6. You realize that there's the word 'funny' in the link..

..top of the page says 'Mad News from Russia' and bottom scroll says 'Webmaster is not responsible for any information on the site'....

[doctorus]

7. funny or not?

of course, nobody in Russia wants to follow Khodorkovsky. That is why they use the humorous (Oesopus) language. I've studied the 'russian' part of the site - it seems that the authors are really informed and that they predicted movement of some key political figures (Surkov for example) well in advance. That is why I myself look at this information very seriously (and recommend to do the same...)
The feeling of patriotism must not restrict the person's openness to the information, even unpleasant (if it's the real patriotism, not the false one). My own concern is about preventing catastrophical events in Russia, which can really occur due to the growth of natioalism ad separatism in the country. As you know, there is no real democracy - no real political opposition, no freedom of mass-media. And remember UKOS... I think that the state power in Russia is not getting stronger, as all newspapers tell us. Instead of it, it is getting weaker. That is why the terrorists became active - they (or their coordinators) hope to destroy the russian political system. What is worse, there are evidences - or rumours, you may say - that some 'security forces' collaborate both with terrorists and nazis. And the consequences can be very sorrow - both for Russia and the other civilised countries.

[russian33]

8. What patriotism? I'm a US citizen...

I was born in Russia, and I still find a lot of stereotypes about Russia, that I'd like to clear up when I can.

By the way, do you know how Khodorkovsky made his money and bought YUKOS? And please, don't give me the 'It's all a political ploy to bring Khodorkovsky down' line.

[doctorus]

9. Khodorkovsky case

How did Khodorkovsky make his money? Just by the same way as all
super-rich russians - using bribes, hiding his profits to avoid taxes and so on. But you see, in Russia it was LEGAL what is illegal in western countries. He was acting as famous hero of russian literature Ostap Bender - some tricks without criminal.
And he is punished exclusively for his political ambitions. And this position of russian authorities is far from democracy.
What we have in Russia now? More than 50% of high-position state
officers are former officers of KGB. And what are the results?
We have no potection from terrorism. We have only re-distribution of property (see the article on the cited above site), but not in the
interests of people.
I support not only Khodorkovsky, but Boris Berezovsky as well. I think that he has said the truth about the terrorist acts in 1999, before Putin's election.

[russian33]

10. Well, if you're also a fan of Berezovsky, then we should stop talking now

[doctorus]

11. fan is not the correct term

of course, I am not his fan. But I really support many of his ideas, declared after he has left Russa - thoughts about liberalism (did you read his 'Liberal Manifest'?), his information about terrorism, his questions to Putin in 2003. And he is really suppressed by russian authorities for his political views, just as Khodorkovsky.

[russian33]

12. it's not his political views, he's a crook, of the worst kind..

..and the Forbes journalist who wrote a detailed book on him, just happened to be gunned down in Moscow recently. How does a former car dealer become so filthy rich and has such connections?

Here, read this: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0151006210/qid=1096055093/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-1221350-3200858?v=glance&s=books

And where is his information about terrorism comes from exactly?

[doctorus]

13. ...he's a crook???

ot more that the other russia tycoons.
But he is the only one real opposition political leader among russian politics.
Paul Khlebikov published the book about Berezovsky, titled
'The Kremlin's Godfather' in 2001 (the first article in Forbes was published in 1996). But there were no any criminal clues in this book. Instead it became a excellent PR action for Berezovsky and made his name even more popular.
In 2004 Khlebikov was killed in Moscow after he has published 'the russian Forbes list' of 100 most rich russian tycoons. At that time
Berezovsky has already been not the richest man in Russia (he is ex-tycoon because most of his property, especially TV-channels, returned back to the state ownership), but the political refugee. After he has brought Putin to power, he became dangerous to the russian authorities...
Now he is no more in the Forbes list, but only in the list of russian political victims and ex-businessmen (Gusinsky, Goldovsky, Khodorkovsky, Lebedev, Nevzlin e.a.). But he is the only one among them who has courage to continue political struggle against suppression of civil rights and freedom in Russia