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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 09:41 AM
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Your Candidates House (xpost from GD)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=321236&mesg_id=321236
Tripping over the left foot of the party.

Recently both Al Gore and John Edwards have run into problems with public criticism of their houses and apparent resource use. Some here on DU have claimed that the criticism has been from freeps more interested in trashing candidates than addressing vital issues. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Recent events have built a political mousetrap. With a foundation on the far left environmental movement. The steel bar of Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth and the tension spring of mounting Climate Change events.

Out on the enviro left people have spent the last 40 years building houses, windmills, solar systems, cars, farming methods, medical systems and social systems. For the most part the the Democratic Party ignores us unless a pretty woman decides to sit in a tree for two years to save it. We have put our lives and bodies on the line to preserve the worlds ecology. Risking injury, torture and death to save one tree or one animal at a time. We vote Democratic every election and percieve little return from the party.

Now you need our services. As Al Gore has made clear and Katrina proved the climate is changing at high speed. The people with the most experience in actually changing houses and systems to a lower energy profile are environmentalists. We’re the ones that know how to farm without GMO seeds, petro-chemical fertilizers and herbicides and tractors. We own all of the super-efficient houses and know what systems work and why.

Our first principle is always reduce consumption. In order to make off-grid houses work with the comfort of an on grid house we have had to become masters of efficiency. We reduce the space that we have to heat or we make the space itself into an energy system that heats, cools and lights itself. Reduce, re-use, re-cycle but always reduce.

When the heavies massive, power hungry houses are outed we cannot help but be offended. When they then try to set themselves up as “leaders in ecology” we are outraged. We have been producing low or no energy consumption houses for over thirty years. The methods Al Gore and John Edwards have described as energy saving are way behind the curve. I can find existing projects in N. Carolina on the net that have 1/5 the per capita energy they use. They could have done better.

The enviros felt dumped in the 90’s so when the heavies put their big feet into our territory a trap that has long been set the thing snaps shut on them. The GOP justs has to sit back and watch as the enviro left unleashes their frustration on the candidate du juor. We really don’t want the Dems. to lose. What we want is an authentically green candidate. We want our planet back.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 10:52 AM
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1. I don't quite get what the message of this post is.
On the one hand, the poster seems to be saying "The Dem candidates are a bunch of posers, and they deserve all the poo that's being flung their way. and the GOP gets to sit back while we cover our own candiates in shit."

But then at the very end he says "but hey, we really don't want you to lose."
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:04 PM
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2. The message is.....
The green side of the Democratic party is pissed that after years of ignoring us we get lame greenwashing attempts from our presidential candidates when the climate crisis is looming. Somebody in the GOP perversely seems to understand this better than our side and triggers the mousetrap. The force behind the mousetrap is that environmentalists/greens get lip service, not real policy, from the DLC candidates.

If our candidates big-ass houses were up to the current standards of green building or even retrofits there would be NO issue. No hypocrisy calls from the right. No demands for a stronger green stance from the left. Perversely grassroots candidates with modest houses, Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich can't get any traction/money from the DLC and it pisses off a significant portion of the base. That same portion that flirted with or voted for Nader in 2000 is actually stronger now. They would like to stay with the democratic party but not at the expense of the entire fucking planet.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-02-07 12:07 PM
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3. And the conclusion is...
what? The former Naderites are going to vent their righteous anger again in 2008 and throw the election to the GOP by voting for yet another 3rd party candidate?
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