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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 07:39 AM
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Great Lakes temperature increase over 6 degrees for last 10 yrs
The average temperature increase at the NOAA buoy sites in the Great Lakes from 1996 to 2005 was
over 6 degrees F.
Data at:
www.flcv.com/GLdata.html

Similar increases though slightly less for such NOAA monitoring buoy sites
off the coast of U.S. on all sides.

www.flcv.com/sstfla.html


Since this data base is on the main NOAA web site, and all "experts" know about it.
Why is this information being suppressed.

Note that the increases are significantly more than officially acknowledged.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:01 AM
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1. So, in 50 years they'll be warm enough to swim in.
Superior and Huron will raise your voice 2 octaves.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:11 AM
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5. Thank God for that.
And the fish will be thankful too.

But since you're a scientist, I guess we can't complain?

(hehehe)
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:30 AM
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7. Anyone living in the Great lakes area know what local metrorologists
are saying about this?? Surely they have to know as these changes are extreme
and this is on a main NOAA web site. A data base any meterologist or oceanographer
should know about and be familar with.

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:06 PM
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2. A different Great Lake, Alexandria Bay
(Great Lakes) D0596 D0593 (93 was in high NAO period
ABAN6 Alexandria Bay, NY 2.36 2.16

D0596 = temperature change from 1996 to 2005

anyone know where Alexandria Bay is?

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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 04:02 AM
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10. ABay
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 04:16 AM by Twist_U_Up
Alexandria Bay is on Lake Ontario at the northern tip entering the St. Lawrence River.

Actually it is farther up the St.Lawrence river than entering the lake. Its is part of what is called the Thousand Islands region.
A certain Skull and Bones fratenity has a crypt vacation spot on one of these islands.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:10 PM
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3. Alaska & California warming also
D0596 D0496 D0577 D0588 (77 & 88 were low NAO years
46001 Gulf of Alaska, Kodiak 1.74 1.45 2.45 0.64 (96 & 2005 were low NAO years


D0588 D0581 (81 & 88 were low NAO years
46012 Half Moon Bay, S.F.,Ca 1.26 1.79 1.51 (96 & 2005 were low NAO years


anyone know where Half Moon Bay is?

more info: www.flcv.com/sstfla.html

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:51 PM
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4. Half Moon is south of San Francisco n/t
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 09:53 PM by AZDemDist6
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:27 AM
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6. Is it in the Pacific or an inland bay of some type?
On the map you show it seems inland?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 10:02 AM
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11. it's on the coast between San Francisco and Santa Cruz n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 01:44 AM
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8. Why? Because people can wrap their mind around the end of the world as we
Edited on Thu Jun-22-06 01:45 AM by autorank
know it. How about 20 foot sea level rise, no polar ice caps by 2100 - no more FL cities, no more Manhattan, Netherlands, London, and a bunch more.

Intellectual dishonesty on the part of the media coupled with the media's status as a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican Party...that's it, I believe.

Thanks for the info.

www.electionfraudnews.com
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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 02:09 AM
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9. Paging Al Gore.... latest scientific data says.... You're RIGHT!
There is a Global Warming Fairy and she's found a bunch of dollars under the rethuglican's pillows that she is rabidly exchanging for warmer temperatures.

Please make her stop.

Arguhhh! She looks like Mann Coulter! Could it be?


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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-22-06 06:32 PM
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12. I grew up near Lake Michigan, about halfway up the Michigan side.
I return to see family and friends on a regular basis, and get back as much as possible tin the summer.

I don't doubt but what the lake temperature trend is upward, but there is a lot, and I mean a lot, of variation in lake water temperature over a period of years.

Some years, no one goes in Lake Michigan all season. The next two years might be just the opposite.

I'll take a wait-and-see attitude concerning a 6 degree permanent increase over the past 9 years. Another ten years might not show such a steep increase line.

I'm truly frightened of global warming, but I have to say, a lake in which one may comfortably swim more than a few days in the summer season would be a small, but enjoyable, side benefit.

Perhaps its time to invest in Lake Superior and Lake Huron waterfront. Sorry, just about everything on Lake Michigan is either very high priced or owned by a governmental entity. The Michigan side is dotted with township, village, city, state and federal parks, forests and national lakeshores. Folks of all income groups usually can find a suitable place to enjoy the beach!
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