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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 09:03 AM Original message |
The false, the confused and the mendacious: how the media gets it wrong on climate change |
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John Paul Jones (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
1. "the debate is over" |
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iemitsu (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. this article points out the difference |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-26-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kick and Rec. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yet another article that ignores the real debate |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Actually no it isn't; not in the sense you are trying to sell it. |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 07:47 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Watch it Nederland |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Kristopher is dogmatic on this subject |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. It's also easier to be rude on the internet then in person |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. There is nothing more rude than deliberately attempting to deceive. |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Perhaps you should take your own advise |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I already said I have no tolerance for those who deliberately spread false information. |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I'm waiting for you to say "wow I can be obnoxious"! |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:28 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. You are wrong. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. You clearly didn't read my post |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You are a denier. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Since when did you become Omniscient? |
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guardian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. The doomer approach to discussion |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. Desdemona loves the smell of delusional hope in the morning: |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. Both "warmists" and "skeptics" miss the larger point: |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 03:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. +1 |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. +2 |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Our comfort zone is small? |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Yes; much smaller perturbations in the carbon cycle have caused mass extinctions |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Very different situation |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Indeed, our situation is much worse |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Six degrees is not remotely possible by the end of the century |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Unfortunately, six degrees is quite achievable |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Achievable if you ignore reality |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. The models are doing quite well against the observations |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. The A1B scenario is doing fairly well against reality |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm saying that the final equilibrium temperature is not particularly important |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 10:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Simply not true |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Your graph makes my point |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Actually the difference in temp |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-27-11 11:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I stand corrected |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. One used to hear a similar argument |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Oil and food are not remotely the same |
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