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LiberalEsto
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Tue Mar-15-11 07:48 AM Original message |
Spent nuclear fuel pool is boiling |
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willing dwarf
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Tue Mar-15-11 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. I keep wondering about a flying cement mixer |
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madokie
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Lot of concrete is carried overhead and placed on high rise buildings dams bridges etc. |
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mopinko
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. those cranes take a long time to set up. |
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madokie
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. I've seen them set up on job sites where they're a lot of shit to move to get them to where |
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mopinko
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. gremlins! |
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ensho
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. that's what they did in Russia - now all the pilots are heroes but dead |
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dixiegrrrrl
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Shit, here agri-biz would cheerfully sell the contaminated produce. |
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Ganja Ninja
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Tue Mar-15-11 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. Foam would be more of an insulator than a coolant. n/t |
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LiberalEsto
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Thanks for that information |
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madokie
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. best i remember nothing beats water in carrying away heat |
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Tue Mar-15-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. Seems trivial compared to the complexity of injecting water into the core. |
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LiberalEsto
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Good information, thanks |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Probably not... but it's effective and available. |
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Nuclear decay isn't a fire you can't put it out. |
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amandabeech
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Does this just need to be topped off or are there circulating pumps |
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Prefered method (to use less water) would be to use pumps. |
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amandabeech
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Thanks for the info. |
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kristopher
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Tue Mar-15-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
63. Why don't you tote that hose into the building then. |
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Buzz Clik
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
7. It begs the question: what happens to our spent fuel since we have no disposal facilities? |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Even with disposal, you need these pools. |
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Buzz Clik
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. How many pounds have we disposed at all? How many ounces? |
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. We have disposed of none. |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Weren`t you the tech-guy who the last days tried to tell everybody, |
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. No please don't put words in my mouth. |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. If I remember correctly, there was especially |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. The situation presented yesterday (and the day before) is not what happened. |
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kristopher
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Tue Mar-15-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. You have been trying to downplay EVERY negative from the first instant. |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Obviously you didn`t understand the answer. |
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Spent fuel "only" remains hot for about 15 years. |
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Buzz Clik
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:32 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. +1 |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. A comprehensive solution? How about thinking of that before starting the whole endevaour? |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. We could just burn the "toxic sh1t" up and disperse it into the environment. |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. First step: Stop producing more of it. |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. But we get almost half of our electricity from it |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'd say 15 to 20 percent. |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Nah... it's higher than that. |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Your graph says 19.7%. |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. 19.7? Nah... that's what it says for nuclear. |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. The only place coal is currently referenced on this thread is the post I'm reply to. |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Really? #31 sure sound like it's talking about coal. |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. To a spin PhD., I'm sure it does. |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I like your style! |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I'm just here to help. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Mar-16-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. "Spin", yes. "Untrue", no. |
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Wilms
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Wed Mar-16-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. In the short term. Maybe. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Mar-16-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. If those who are "yet to be born" don't have a healthy planet... |
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Wilms
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Wed Mar-16-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. When your done with your strawman, have a look at the Chernobyl kids. |
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FBaggins
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Wed Mar-16-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. NOT a strawman. Chernobyl is one small spot on the planet. |
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Wilms
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Wed Mar-16-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Still talking about coal? |
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FBaggins
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Wed Mar-16-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. "Lack of imagination" is EXACTLY my problem. You pegged it. |
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Wilms
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Wed Mar-16-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Did you cut and paste that from an argument months back. |
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LiberalEsto
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Put it on a rocket and send it to the sun? |
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Wouldn't need to go to Sun or Mars simply out of the solar system. |
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LiberalEsto
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Good point. nt |
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SpoonFed
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Wed Mar-16-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. +1 |
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Duende azul
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Is that sarcasm? |
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LiberalEsto
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. No, I'm really wondering if it's possible |
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wtmusic
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. The risk of it crashing back to Earth, and being spread far and wide |
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wtmusic
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. +1 nt |
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willing dwarf
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. According to interview with Peter Bradford former NRC leader |
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Sadly most of the pilots at Chernobyl died from those sorties. |
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GliderGuider
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Tue Mar-15-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. The situation here would be a bit different |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Sounds like there will still be a plume |
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GliderGuider
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Yes, not anywhere near as intense as Chernobyl's. |
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thereismore
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I wonder if the corporation that owns the plant should be in charge anymore. nt |
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Tue Mar-15-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I would say no. It is interesting that plants closer to the earthquake shutdown safely. |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Were the closed plants along the coast? |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Ban tsunamis? n/t |
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FBaggins
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I'd vote for it. |
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Wilms
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Tue Mar-15-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Oh but they DID "design them with a contingency". |
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CJvR
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Tue Mar-15-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
59. There always are. |
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willing dwarf
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Tue Mar-15-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
58. Oh that is dreadful! |
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kristopher
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Tue Mar-15-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
62. They were going to use heli to put water on it through the hole |
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