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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 02:10 AM
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The real (hidden) danger of melting ice caps and global climate change
Watch this video but don't have a mouthful of water when you do:
"Fire and Ice: Permafrost Melt Spews Combustible Methane"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1liqk9UQNAQ&feature=related

Methane is something like 20 times worse than CO2 and the problem just isn't in the Arctic. Russia and the former Soviet Union is facing climate change and the methane is bubbling out as the permafrost is melting:
"Russian Permafrost Melt - BBC"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKyRHDFKEXQ&feature=feedu

:scared:

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 03:01 AM
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1. I thought we had something that eats methane?
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 03:09 AM
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2. A fuel cell? Those are far too expensive for anyone to afford
Did you mean an organism? Too tired to look it up; perhaps in the morning.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:10 AM
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3. Yeah. A hungry organism.
So when the rest of us die, something will be happy and well fed.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 04:42 AM
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4. Have to research that another time
too sleepy. must put keyboard away now...
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:15 AM
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6. There is no way to capture methane emissions from permafrost - fuel cell or no fuel cell
Edited on Sat Feb-05-11 10:15 AM by jpak
There are methnotrophic bacteria in permafrost - but rates of emissions ebullition far exceed any conceivable in situ microbial oxidation rates.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 08:41 AM
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5. There are methanotrophic bacteria (methane eating)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 01:32 PM
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9. Yeah. Them.
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OnlinePoker Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:19 AM
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7. Just to put my oar in...
...anything above the Arctic Circle would be considered the Arctic, including northern Russia.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 12:59 PM
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8. I remember reading reports of methane bubbling up in lakes in Alaska
This has gotten no real attention in the media.

-Hoot
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 11:11 PM
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11. Also a GRL article I posted a while back? About subsea pingoes bubbling methane from their tops . .
That didn't get much attention either.

Still, I'm sure that there's a market mechanism out there to make them stop emitting methane, or to make CO2 stop absorbing heat from longwave radiation. You just KNOW Goldman Sachs is working night and day on it!

:silly:

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-11 10:58 PM
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10. Old news
That was the story ten years ago.

Are you just now becoming aware?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-11 12:22 AM
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12. This is about a year old


And of course it doesn't solve the problem of Arctic methane. If anything, it adds to it.

http://www.greenmuze.com/climate/energy/2413-chinas-burning-ice-.html
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