President Obama discussing renewable energy at the Oval Office right now is so awesome.

[joshcryer]

Now, Mr President, please get them to put in very stringent energy efficiency standards! The Senate Bill currently doesn't have it significantly!

[katandmoon]

1. Awesome? I thought it was unbelievably weak and lame. Let's pray for a hand to guide us!

[lillypaddle]

2. ditto

[XemaSab]

4. I got your hand right here

[XemaSab]

5. Oh, and that gesture's not directed at you

Oh no.

It's directed somewhere in the direction of 1) the gulf coast and 2) DC.

[joshcryer]

8. My statements had nothing to do with Obama's handling of the current situation.

They have everything to do with energy independence for the USA.

Yes, the Administration and the CEOs have done a piss poor job solving the problem.

[XemaSab]

10. You've been in E/E for a while; you know the issues and the games

At the end of the day, there are four ways this can go down:

1) Business as usual.

2) Energy independence, which involves coal, natural gas, oil, nukes, biofuels, and renewables.

3) Carbon-free, which involves hydropower, wind, solar, geothermal, tidal, and nukes.

4) "Clean" and "renewable" energy, which involves hydropower, wind, solar, geothermal, biofuels, and tidal.

I'm personally happy with anything other than fossil fuels at this point (and I don't care how much money it takes), which means that I want to go a LOT further than just energy independence. I think that's a low target for right now.

If someone offers to sell you a bridge, get the specs on it before you put down your money.

[joshcryer]

15. Absolutely, but since when did we have a President that argued for renewable energy independency...

...from the White House? I don't ever recall it.

Obama is nutered because progressives want him nutered. Gives them something to complain about. When he becomes a lame duck everyone will just bemoan further.

[joshcryer]

7. What? It was weak to call for energy independency?

C'mon.

[provis99]

3. yeah, he mentioned squat about actually doing anything.

Just a lot on faith will save us, somehow.

[joshcryer]

6. He used a crisis to talk about passing an energy bill.

I myself have said I don't like the Kerry-Lieberman bill, but we need something.

[XemaSab]

9. Any energy bill is going to be like the health care bill

5 months of selling out, followed by a weak bill pledging to phase in LED's in the White House bathrooms over the next 10 years. Which none of the republicans will vote for.

[Kolesar]

11. I have to figure out what to write to my moderate Repuke congressman

Got any ideas? Latourette has been good on labor, rail, and water quality votes. He wrote me back about killing the F22 and I got a moderate affirmation.

Here is our moment.

[meow mix]

12. yeah..

so far this wh = epic failboat, no improvements expected.

[phantom power]

13. +oo

[joshcryer]

14. That's why I focus on energy efficiency, I think it is politically viable.

And it can and would reduce our energy usage significantly.

Throw everything out, give us an energy efficiency bill!