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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 03:59 AM
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Light pollution, need information
I live in rural Oregon. Neighbor has built a new house, the kind he thinks he needs a permanent floodlight on. It's flooding my house, too, and I think it's noxious. I have no idea where to go to get help for it.

Thanks in advance.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 04:30 AM
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1. Being a bit silly here, but that was all covered by the Fallout 2 video opening.
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 04:41 AM by RandomThoughts
For those bothered by the video, remmember bullets don't work, and it is just a opening scene from a video game.

Fallout 2 Intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKUfk-MgJw


Found a funny scene from Fallout 2
Drill Sargent speech. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSnjKheGHg

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 05:02 AM
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2. Seeing how most people are scared of the dark and really have no clue
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 05:41 AM
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4. In metaphor all those dark skies posts have been done before.
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 05:43 AM by RandomThoughts
They were mentioned in the matrix, and highlander. Although with different causes and expansions.


First off you have to flip them, but that is complicated.

Then you take the scorching of the sky to block the sun light, as a metaphor for all the scrubbing of the good stuff full of light that use to be shown in many places.

There are some that like the darkness, I think light is beautiful.

Clean sun shine, disinfecting all the corners, light and truth, the good stuff, sun shine on the shoulder, all good stuff.


Then again, I am addicted to love :)
Robert Palmer - Addicted to Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEqsZExmDzI


I also appreciate a night sky, but like the lights best :)
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 05:04 AM
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3. I think it's down to city/county ordinances
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 05:05 AM by Dead_Parrot
Some have 'em, some don't. http://www.darkskiesnorthwest.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=37&Itemid=56 might be a starting point, or try asking at http://groups.google.com/group/light-pollution.

Might be a silly question, but have to spoken him directly? He might be willing to at least angle it so it's not so bad...

Good luck. :)
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:15 AM
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5. Our Township (a rural/suburban area) has had Ordinances about this for a long time.
Very specific limits on how much light can encroach. But I agree with Dead_Parrot that it might be good to talk with the neighbor about it in a friendly way before you take the legal approach. Changing the angle might help. Do it soon, because there may be grand-father elements to the Ordinance.

Good luck.
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Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:25 AM
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6. If all else fails, you could try the Archimedes mirror weapon.



Other than that, light blocking window treatments might work, but it's too bad that it might come to that. Maybe invite him over some night and see if he notices what he's doing to your house with his lighting.

Neighbors can either be a bane or a boon depending on their actions.
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travelingtypist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 05:26 PM
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7. Thanks for the advice.
Edited on Sat Apr-03-10 05:27 PM by travelingtypist
I rent a small cottage. The owner of my house and the offending neighbor have been at war since the neighbor bought the property and cut down the 200 or so trees in order to build his monstrosity of a "look how big mine is" house. So the relationship is already strained. Landlord lives in DC, rents this little place to me so that he can have somebody on the property until he rents out the other house on this property. I'm supposed to go pick him and landlady up tomorrow. I'll have to stand on his neck to get him to do something, but I wanted to come at him forearmed with information about our options.

Here's the view. If I had turned right from this point of view, I'd've taken a picture of the monstrosity.



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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-10 07:26 PM
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8. my sympathies!
flying south at night from Canada to southern California, it's nice and dark until one reaches roughly the greater Sacramento area; from then on, it's lights all the way. Light pollution is horrible! I'm not familiar with the local ordinances; perhaps you can write a friendly appeal letter to the new neighbor, at least asking that the lights not be left on after, say, 9pm?
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