Nuclear war between India, Pak could spell climate disaster : Report by Japan and Australia

[bananas]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/environment/global-warming/Nuclear-war-between-India-Pak-could-spell-climate-disaster-Report/articleshow/5501247.cms

Nuclear war between India, Pak could spell climate disaster : Report
PTI, 26 January 2010, 09:39am IST

UNITED NATIONS: A nuclear war between India and Pakistan could cause severe "climate cooling" and may have a devastating impact on agriculture worldwide, says a report jointly produced by Japan and Australia on nuclear-non proliferation and disarmament.

"Just a limited regional nuclear exchange, for example between India and Pakistan, with each side attacking the other's major cities with 50 low-yield Hiroshima-sized weapons, would throw up major concentrations of soot into the stratosphere which would remain there for long enough to cause unprecedented climate cooling worldwide, with major disruptive effects on global agriculture," the report says.

It reveals that during the eighties scientists had conducted research on the impact of nuclear war on the climate and found the possibility of pollution of atmosphere by massive amounts of debris and smoke would block out the sunlight for decades and lead to a "nuclear winter".

This would kill many plants and animals, drastically changing ecological balances, cause famines and lead to breakdown of communities not directly affected by nuclear explosions, says the report produced by International Commission for Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament.

It states that after the eighties there was a great deal of suspicion about the "nuclear winter" theory but research on the subject was picking up again.

Nuclear proliferation is clearly both an Environment and Energy problem.
Martin Hellman estimates the failure rate of deterrence at 1% per year.
The famous Doomsday Clock considers it more serious than global warming.

[NNadir]

1. Just for the record, how many nuclear wars have been observed?

How many of the nuclear wars were started by attacks on oil fields owned by Royal Dutch Shell?

Don't know any history whatsoever?

Why am I not surprised?

[Nihil]

2. Go for it!

> "Just a limited regional nuclear exchange, for example between India and
> Pakistan, with each side attacking the other's major cities with 50 low-yield
> Hiroshima-sized weapons, would throw up major concentrations of soot into the
> stratosphere which would remain there for long enough to cause unprecedented
> climate cooling worldwide, with major disruptive effects on global agriculture,"
> the report says.

Gets rid of a chunk of the excess human population (both in the immediate impact
on the large cities involved and through the indirect starvation caused by the
sudden cooling), counteracts the short-term global warming problems that we can't
get anyone to take seriously (i.e., buys us more time) and provides a wake-up call
to the disarmament people (i.e., that they're not getting there fast enough).

Win-win!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[AtheistCrusader]

3. I think we'd have bigger problems than this.

First off, wait till China realizes it's downwind, and eating fallout.

The idea a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India would remain just between them is pretty laughable.

[Nihil]

4. So what's China going to do?

> First off, wait till China realizes it's downwind, and eating fallout.

Drop some of its own nukes on the already nuked cities in India/Pakistan
to punish them (and increase the fallout landing on China)?

Hell, they'd probably use the same strategy as has worked fine for them
in the past: pack as much of it as they can into cheap toys & other crap
until they're found out and then look for an alternative dumpsite.

:shrug:

Oh the joys of trying to apply logic to totally irrational events ...

[AtheistCrusader]

5. I would expect them to strike a deal, and pick a side.

Most unfortunate for the country that failed to cut a deal. China is the 3rd party with a stake in the Kashmir highlands. They control about 25% of it.