Barack Obama's trip to Beijing expected to yield cooperation on 'clean coal' and smart grids and

[clear eye]

rejuvenate stalling climate talks

Article in the Guardian: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/16/china-barack-obama-us-technology

"During the summit, the two nations will announce a new energy cooperation programme, unveil closer collaboration on "cleaner coal" technology and smart grids and establish a joint research centre."

"The two nations also talk a different language when it comes to the transfer of technology from west to east, a key concern for China. On Beijing's wishlist are salt-resistant materials for offshore windfarms, hi-tech components for large wind turbines, smart-grid control systems and more efficient pumps for nuclear reactors."

(Oy.)

[Vincardog]

1. I am down with everything till you get to the pumps for nuclear reactors

[clear eye]

3. They're not getting anything on that list.

The article is contrasting what Obama is willing to do (help them out a little w/ "clean coal" tech and "smart grids", and give some countries a little development money, as opposed to what the Chinese want--high tech renewable and nuclear info. It's hard to give them anything because the first thing the Chinese have always done when they've gotten anything like that is to ignore patents and go into business making the stuff themselves, w/ less quality control, and sell it abroad in direct competition w/ the companies who were so kind as to allow them limited access to the technology. That's what's happened w/ pretty much all "joint ventures" high tech cos. have done in China. Now few will go into those kind of agreements w/ them.

[Tim01]

2. Yeah, right.

:eyes: China is not going to pay any attention to us trying to tell them what to do in their own country.
I would be surprised if China even bothers to keep up the pretense once the media is not pointing cameras at them.