Daring expansion on tap for new solar company—Eugene-based Centron Solar wants to build six plants…

[OKIsItJustMe]

http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2009/08/17/story6.html?b=1250481600^1935461&s=industry&i=manufacturing

Friday, August 14, 2009

Daring expansion on tap for new solar company

Eugene-based Centron Solar wants to build six plants, blanket the U.S.

Portland Business Journal - by Erik Siemers Staff Writer

Two months after starting up, http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/related_content.html?topic=Centron%20Solar%20Inc">Centron Solar Inc. is mapping out a plan for national expansion.

The Eugene-based solar panel manufacturer says it wants to open as many as six assembly plants across the United States in the next two years as part of a plan to become the nation’s lowest-cost provider of solar panels and a dominant brand in the world’s fastest growing solar energy market.

“Our goal is very, very clear and simple,” said Ocean H.Y. Yuan, president of the private company. “We want to make solar affordable to more than 80 percent of American households — without a government subsidy.”

Solar analysts say Centron could be hitting the market at a tough time. An oversupply of panels is diving down prices for even the most established panel-makers.

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[kristopher]

1. Interesting difference in perspective

“We want to make solar affordable to more than 80 percent of American households — without a government subsidy.”
- Ocean H.Y. Yuan, president of the private company

"Centron could be hitting the market at a tough time... an oversupply of panels is diving (sic) down prices for even the most established panel-makers."
- Solar analysts cited in the story


Not being a subscriber I'm left wondering if this juxtaposition was deliberate or if readers are left to speculate about the nature of the opportunity Centron sees that the unnamed "solar analysts" are missing.

[kristopher]

2. Centron link

http://www.centronsolar.com/

[create.peace]

3. they can store them outside there and you will still get them 'unused'....

sis graduated from UO, she said she rusted, didn't tan.

[SolarFriend]

4. China Solar Fraud- Centron Solar

As of late June, a new Chinese startup company by the name of Centron Solar has opened their headquarters right here in Eugene, Oregon. It certainly doesn't look very Chinese at first look on their website: www.centronsolar.com, and Centron is registered as a Foreign Business Corporation with jurisdiction Delaware: http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.show_detl?p_be_rsn=1404813&p_srce=BR_INQ&p_print=FALSE

Seems odd that a company who settled with an unpaid intern (who was used for free labor,) registers their company 2 days after they ask the intern to not show up any more.http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.show_detl?p_be_rsn=1404813&p_srce=BR_INQ&p_print=FALSE

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/business/18590037-41/story.csp

Here are some of the first News articles that burst out on the scene in Oregon revolving Centron:

http://www.centronsolar.com/index.php?action=aboutus.news_events

How does an unheard of foreign business corporation "start-up" launch off with that much influence in media, and government support?

Centron Solar import solar panels from lesser known solar panel manufacturers in China ( www.nesl.cn and www.jetion.com.cn ) Then, they have conspired to brand these solar panels with their logo and model numbers.

For instance, have a look at Centron Solar's product sheet http://centronsolar.com/index.php?action=products.prod_overview

Centron's models:

CS-S-175-DJ
CS-S-189-DJ

These two models are actually from Chanzhou NESL Solartech in China, and their rightful model numbers are:

Changzhou NESL Solartech DJ-175D
Changzhou NESL Solartech DJ-180D
http://nesl.cn/Product.asp?Action=View&ProductID=71&Catalog=0

Let's see what Centron President Ocean Yuan claims in the Oregonian:http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2009/07/chinese_startup_based_in_eugen.html

Funny how the journalist at the Oregonian wrote this article prior:http://www.oregonlive.com/special/index.ssf/2009/02/helping_china_go_green.html

Both these models are listed on the California Energy Commissions "Eligible for Subsidies," which also applies in Oregon and the Northwest in general: http://www.gosolarcalifornia.org/equipment/pvmodule.html, but Centron's model numbers are nowhere to be found on that list, yet they are selling them on the U.S market under their "consortium," which in reality is NESL and Jetion.

Centron's 220W model which is actually purchased from the Chinese solar manufacturer Jiangyin Jetion Science and Technology :

CS-P-220-JT

Jetion Model number:

JT220(30)P1655×992

*Notice that Centron Solar has kept the "DJ" from NESL and "JT" from Jetion.

For whatever reason, Centron Solar are able to sell their panels with their model numbers to both Nike in Beaverton, and the Oregon National Guard in Portland, and still they are eligible for subsidies? Or are they?

According to both EWEB (Eugene's utility company) and AEE Solar (Nations larges solar panel distributor;) Because Centron Solar's models are not listed on the "eligible for subsidies" list, they cannot sell their panels on our subsidized market. However, Centron Solar has managed to sneak their model numbers onto PV Powered (solar power inverter systems headquartered in Bend, OR) string sizing: http://pvpowered.com/usage_terms_string_sizer.php (Look for Centron Solar in drop down box.) There is no trace that Centron Solar is merely distributing modules which have already been approved on the "eligibility" list, not as Centron Solar. Remember, Centron is a "consortium of 30 manufacturers." -...Riiiight...

Centron Solar claims that they are a consortium representing 30 manufacturers in China who have come together to create Centron's product line. This is how Centron Solar launched their product at the Intersolar2009 trade show in SF early July.

Centron solar also claims they can sell their panels 10% cheaper than any competitor on the U.S market, including their Chinese counterparts such as the biggest solar company in China- Suntech. I spoke with a government relations manager for Solarworld USA who said they had done a feasibility report on the production cost of NESL's solar panels. It was impossible- unless the production cost was subsidized by the Chinese government, thus breaking the FTC's Imports Administrations anti-dumping laws.

http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=219400273 (Proud to announce the "walmartization" of the U.S solar industry administered and operated by Chinese enterprise.)

Both NESL Solartech and Jetion have offices in California, but because no distributor is brave enough to pick up their products- they have designed a way to bypass protectionism and antitrust, through a channel called Centron Solar. This is why they are announching extravagant promises of 350 jobs in Eugene by making the old Hynix building an assembly plant (For the chinese manufacturers NESL/Jetion,) and another 100 jobs in Vancouver, Washington by taking over the old Panasonic building there. Centron Solar claims to warrant their products with 10, 10 and 25 year warranties... this is not Centron Solar that warrants these products, it is the manufacturers in China themselves (look at their websites.) Vancouver, Washington: http://columbian.com/article/20090804/BIZ01/708049969/-1/BIZ

Apparently it is illegal for Centron Solar to carry the UL certification logo, as it is not Centron Solar who has been inspected by UL, it is (again) their manufacturers in China.

Pardon me for caring, but this is an absolute atrocity. Our government subsidies and tax payer moneys have become a feeding ground for predatory Foreign Business Corporations like Centron Solar. Centron Solar will send roughly 80-85% profit of their sales straight back into China.From my understanding the stimulus bills in form of renewable energy subsidies are meant to aid recovery of our deficit, stimulate growth in american renewable energy businesses, innovation and creativity. It has been brought to my attention that the people involved in Centron Solar are tied in with government officials who are aiming at profiting from this business. This is an absolute perversion of our constitution and judicial legislature and needs to be stopped immediately. It is imperative that Tobias Read of district 27, also a product line developer for Nike, should be questioned about his intentions with Centron Solar, and purchasing "ineligible for subsidy" solar panels from them? The legal firm representing Centron is Davis Wright Tremaine LLC in Portland, Oregon. Former Washington governor Gary Locke was a noted attorney for this law firm, now he is the U.S Chamber of Commerce Secretary! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Wright_Tremaine It is imperative that secret affiliation and financial interest in this company is exposed promptly. For those who think Solar, let alone Chinese Solar is just an unprofitable pipe-dream, think again. China's riches man is the founder and CEO of Suntech, a Chinese solar panel outfit which operates in the U.S: http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/10/billionaires08_Shi-Zhengrong_EP46.html

Also, please have a look at Centron's advisory board: http://centronsolar.com/index.php?action=aboutus.advisory_bd

Greg Evans- Since when did a startup company in the U.S need a political advisor? Let alone the president of the NAACP for Oregon/Washington. The NAACP seem to have an overwhelmingly interest in green development lately, in efforts to destruct our renewable energy sector in order to rebuild it under the realm of "Social Justice." Obama's green jobs advisor, Van Jones, has diligently pushed for this political vision and agenda since appointment as "green jobs Czar/Advisor." Greg Evans is also the Vice President Board member of Lane Transit District, and said this about Centron Solar in the newspapers: "This is very legit, Trust me!" http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/news/cityregion/16800609-46/story.csp

David S Thomson- 13 year veteran of the finance group Siebert Bradford Shank & Co. Lives in Seattle, Washington. He was appointed to lead their transportation finance efforts on the west-coast. Perhaps this is how Greg Evans, and David Thomson know eachother? http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=6858070

It seems odd that Centron Solar has had such immense political and media support before even earning $1 in sales revenue in both Oregon and Washington lately, and made it through media channels to USA today. Centron Solar, besides Bruce O'Neil and Tobias Read of Nike, are being marketed through Polaris, Inc. http://www.polaris-inc.com/index.php?action=about.NewsInfo&rowid=183.

This should provide you with enough facts about what is going on behind the scenes in the Oregon solar industry, and who is aiming to profit from it. However, it is important to consider those who will be hurt as the result of Centron Solar as well (although apparently, our green energy leaders claim we need to de-industrialize and "re-build" our renewable energy sector, so that kids in the LA, NY, TX, OH etc. ghettos can get jobs first.) By allowing Centron Solar to monopolize with their Wal-mart agenda, it will deflate the entire renewable energy sector in this country, and dumping of Chinese products will cause the prices of solar to go down. The same effect Wal-Mart on our businesses here at home will happen with our Solar businesses here at home. We invented solar technology, we should therefore be able to innovate them- according to Bill Keith who was coined the "renewable energy patriot" by Senator Lugar of Indiana, and Phil Angeledes- former Treasurer of California and Chairman of the Apollo Alliance.

[kristopher]

5. Are you the "unpaid intern" that sued to get paid for 18 days of work

because you didn't get hired full time?

If this is a sample of your work, I'm on the side of their personnel dept.


The first hurdle with your post was convincing myself that it was worth wading through. It is long on effort but you begin with too much; perhaps you could lay out in a few short sentences a summary of just what you think the problem is. Without knowing that, the rest of the post is going to be pretty daunting for most people.

And I have to tell you that after reading it I just don't see much of an issue. I followed the first 7 links and the only thing I found *out of the ordinary* was that someone who AGREED to work as an UNPAID INTERN for 18 days SUED for wages when they were not hired full time - apparently in the belief that it is profitable for a company to meet their low level labor needs by cycling through the massive rolls of the unemployed in 3 week cycles.

It seems to not have penetrated that the reason companies (of all stripes) use the intern method for evaluating potential new hires isn't the cost savings in labor, but the cost savings in being able to identify unsuitable candidates that otherwise make it through the screening process. The lawsuit itself and the strange perception behind it is a good indicator of why that person might have been viewed as an unsuitable full time employee.

Other than that the only thing I learned is that this is a consortium of chinese solar panel manufacturers and thaat they intend to build SIX factories (each probably costing 1/2-1 billion dollars) HERE and hire Americans to build solar panels that will be installed by Americans on American homes and businesses.

What I don't see is where they have "conspired to brand" anything improperly. All other talk of that nature looks equally suspect.

The one area of legitimate concern I noted was the claim that Centron engaged in dumping; a violation of WTO agreements. Although the support for that claim is weak, it is legitimate for the affected industries to scrutinize the situation carefully. However even in this single oasis of reason in an otherwise totally chaotic presentation, you have wandered off the reservation of reality into tinfoil hat territory.

If there is dumping then US manufacturers will be able to make their complaint to the WTO and receive a fair hearing where the evidence will be fairly examined. If the allegation is true, they will be charged a tariff to offset any unfair advantage that might be uncovered. That in itself has pretty well put an end to the practice of dumping since it is seldom able to be done profitably.

What the allegation isn't is evidence of "predatory" practices that violate the idea of the stimulus. The arrangement this consortium is modeled after seems to be one worked out with Japanese car manufacturers in the 80s, only weighted more in favor of the US. That arrangement was considered a very fair balance between the rights of foreign companies to do business here, and protections for our domestic workforce. If the Japanese carmakers had gone as far as this company had, everyone would have been ecstatic.

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[PowerOfSol]

6. Solar myths

First, unless your heads in the sand, or you are a relative of Senator James Inohoff whom flatly denies climate change, more solar is good, and will probably become a major piece of the puzzle to keep OUR SPECIES THRIVING. Fossil fuels are done and over in the near future, although admittedly we will be stuck with them for decades to come. Shirley you realize that. Yes, I did just call you Shirley.


Then you state;
"I spoke with a government relations manager for Solarworld USA who said they had done a feasibility report on the production cost of NESL's solar panels. It was impossible- unless the production cost was subsidized by the Chinese government, thus breaking the FTC's Imports Administrations anti-dumping laws."

Well, I can't call this very sound investigative reporting, since you went to the competition for unprovable facts... Do you have a copy of the report? Do they include their own costs? Does SolarWorld have any 'Made in China' components?

Then you go on;
"Our government subsidies and tax payer moneys have become a feeding ground for predatory Foreign Business Corporations like Centron Solar. Centron Solar will send roughly 80-85% profit of their sales straight back into China."

You are now revealing your intern status. The various State rebates, as well as the Federal Tax Credit, goes straight to the end user, which would be US citizens or businesses, and onto their property in the US. As for the Stimulus money, can you quote any company renewable energy company that has received any money yet? I know there is a backlog of applications, but if any company is going to open US manufacturing plants, isn't that good news? I concur with previous reply's, this is now a truly World economy, parts from all over the world, and as products go, we could do worse than solar PV. Also, if they are dumping below cost, and not directly receiving rebates or tax credits, where is the 80-85% profit send straight back to China come in?

One more item, Sunpower, a major US player, manufactures mainly in Philipinnes. Evergreen Solar, known as a US manufacturer, is now moving overseas to, wait for it.... China. First Solar is opening a HUGE manufacturing plant in, yeah, China.

You sound like an environmentalist/econ/accnt major, and I'm sorry you had a rough go of it, but perhaps you need to pick you battles, or gather your courage and launch your own US panel manufacturing plant. Good luck to you in any case, but please don't forget the ultimate goal, more renewables, fight through the crap thrown out by the fossil fuel industry (don't even get me started on their propaganda!)

[SolarFriend]

7. Re; Solar Myths

Thanks for responding.

Both you and I both know that the Oil companies are not really competing with converting to Solar for our power grid. There may be some natural gas involved as far as heating goes, but generally it is either nuclear, hydro, wind, solar, or coal powered electric grids we are talking about here. Fossil fuels have very little to do with it, and I commend our utility companies for taking great strides in converting the grid to more environmentally friendly ways.

In regards to the feasibility of Chinese produced goods, there should be no question that the Chinese solar companies are receiving generous loans and subsidies by the Chinese government. If you read the latest news from Suntech you will see that the words of the founder and CEO have stirred up great controversy and there have been great measures taken in order to stop the influx of below-cost products from China, in this care relating to solar panels. When speaking of OUR SPECIES THRIVING, you may consider the exorbitant amounts of pollution exaggerated in the production of these solar panels, the toxic dumping and poisonous air inhaled by Chinese villagers who live in the areas where production is done. Don't get me wrong, I respect your concern in regards to our species, but perhaps you should take into consideration the Yangzhe River dolphin in your analysis as well.

The fact of the matter is that Centron Solar have gained access to a market where honest Chinese manufacturers are trying to introduce and honest product in our market. These companies would be such as Yingli and Trina. The companies your are describing above with a suspicion that they are producing in China... who cares? They are American owned companies and the wealth of these companies stays in our country, and will benefit the American consumer more so than money which is funneled into China. The US solar panel installer is NOT, and I reapeat not, lacking work in installations. They are not dependent on Centron Solar to thrive, nor to grow. The price of Solar will come down regardless of aggressive snubnosed foreign companies who aim at bankrupting industry in our nation by representing a product as something different than it is in order to materialize and receive $20 million in federal tax cuts by creating assembly plants which will be robotic when funds allow it to anyways.

Please, I beg of you to see the importance of the impact of this company in our already suffering economy. I am not the intern, nor am I the scholar you describe. I am a concerned citizen who cares where my tax dollars go, and who cares about the prosperity for our children. The truth is that Kulongoski is selling us out. With his visit to China earlier this year in order to lobby for importing electric cars to Oregon, in order to profit, has caused reputable electric car companies like the Norwegian Think car to look the other way. Not only have electric car companies looked the other way, but they are waiting in line amongst many to make sure fair trade is administered for free trade to occur more successfully. You may see this on the Imports Administrations webpage.

I don't understand why people want to RUSH into deflation of price and inflation of solar panels dominated by Chinese manufacture, as you state yourself it would be in the interest to stimulate entrepreneurs here at home go get into the solar business. Instead of funding foreign influence in our future as a global leader and competitor in renewable energy, as is the wishes of president obama, it would make sense to do what the Chinese government is doing in their country- funding and subsidizing production and manufacture of a product that can make solar affordable for the American consumer.

I would have to disagree, although in matters of speaking of oneself I know I fall subject to hypocrisy. I don't have my head in the Sand. My head is challenging corruption and the selling out of Oregonian innovation. Both you and I know what Wal-mart did to small business when imploding into every small and big town in America. Why on God's great planet would we wish this upon ourselves when it comes to renewable energy? For price? We can supply that demand ourselves through making it possible for Shirley to start her own green company, even though she cannot withdraw from a second mortgage.

[WestDem]

10. It's Pretty Obvious

It's pretty transparent that you are indeed the intern mentioned in your noted articles. If you want to take a stance against Chinese importation of goods and dumping- fine. But your concentration on this one company seems desperate- almost obsessive. The points you are trying to make are being blurred by only exhibiting only one example (Centron Solar). Also, your points again are being downgraded by your utter racism ("aggressive snubnosed foreign companies"). Anyone, especially a liberal "democrat", is deemed ignorant for making such snide remarks.

I'm sorry that you were unable to achieve a full time position, but perhaps you just did not fit the part. I know if I were 27 years old I would be concentrating on looking for a job, instead of blogging incessantly to no avail.

[SolarFriend]

11. Lol...

I don't think you understand the degree which people are involved in this issue. I'm not a politician, so I have no reason to "watch what I say." It's obvious your political convictions are counter-productive to the left. Even the communist parties in Europe don't agree to Chinese industrialization in Europe/World. And for the love of God- as much as you wish I was the person who was unjustly taken advantage of for free labor, it seems evident that your judgment is clouded by a vast affiliation with the prosperity of foreign goods and services, in this case solar panels from China which are duplicated in order to create the illusion that they are an "american" brand. Go back to school and read some more political theory "Mr. "Democrat.""

[WestDem]

12. ???

Your blatant racism disgusts me- and anyone with any sort of liberal intelligence would agree.

If you are not the said intern, I would like to know who wrote this:

http://www.thesolarforum.com/mm-forum/4-general-questions-and-discussion-about-solar-energy/50-china-solar-fraud-centron-solar

Please note the paragraph stating: "Seems odd that a company who settled with an unpaid intern who was used for free labor, registers their company 2 days after they ask the intern to not show up any more due to limited space (that intern was me.)"

This forum is identical to one of your original posts here, except you have conveniently left out the above quote. There are two answers to how this occurred:

1. You are indeed the intern
OR
2. The intern read your post here, took a time machine and went back in time, and copied your exact wording and wrote the above noted forum.

Whatever the case is, it seems to be all a part of some strange and crazed scenario.
You are replicating exactly what you are accusing this company of- changing the label of who you are and advertising your "informative posts" wherever you can.

I would suggest one of the following: 1. be more sneaky 2. be smarter 3. be honest
Since you seem incapable of the #2 and #3, I suggest you be more sneaky.

On any account, this whole development is too bizarre and twisted for me to argue with. Good luck with your agenda.

[SolarFriend]

13. nope...

Centron is going down, and there are many of us posting the same messages all over as it is of instrumental importance for the tax payer, and green industry at home that we don't allow fraudulent attempts at introducing a product which is produced specifically to bankrupt our businesses here at home. You must be part of some really strange channel of liberal democracy, in fact contradictory to the liberal agenda. Selling out to foreign governments is not in the interest of the American people, and although you are willing to sacrifice the so-called "eco-elitists" who made all of this possible to begin with, there are still things which need to be done in order to allow innovation. You're obviously blinded by the definition of racism. The term "snubnosed foreign interest" is not racist, even Obama would call you an idiot for saying so. There's nothing racial about it, as there are many snubnosed foreign governments who are not Asian, including our own govt. Go get a job moron..

[WestDem]

14. reply to "SolarFriend"

"Centron is going down".... Wow way to increase the creepy factor. I thought you claimed that you DID NOT have a personal agenda concerning this company?
Also, I am supposed to believe that the same post was made under the same alias of "SolarFriend", but it happens to be different people?? riiiighhht. Again, to make your claims actually seem viable you need to address more than one company doing this- all foreign companies infiltrating the US solar industry are guilty of "taking our stimulus". Additionally, you are telling me when you are speaking of Chinese people, and refer to them as "snubnosed", you are NOT being racist? Especially when referencing a post titled "Chinese Solar Fraud?"? Ya, that sounds like an endearing term. Interesting perspective...

I realize that you are upset, and have to resort to name-calling in lieu of having a strong argument, but I have an inkling of whose side Obama would be on.

Lastly, what are these "fraudulent attempts" you speak of? The fact that a company is branding under its own name, like 1000's of other US companies? Are they claiming to manufacture themselves? If not, it sounds like their primary focus is US logistic support.

Anyways, I feel like I am having to repeat myself. I will discontinue to to reply to your posts. You are in way to deep to admit who you are or what your true agenda is.

[SolarFriend]

15. ....

I was done discussing this with you after your first reply... thought you would come around... guess not.

The 1000's of other US companies you are talking about are not competing with their manufactures in the same market dummy. When did you become an expert on UL certification, private labeling, co-branding, and multiple-listee letters? Don't you think that we've done comprehensive research on this issue? There is more, much more, to come...

I said snubnosed foreign interest, not what you are implying. Pull your head out of your arse mate.

Obama just imposed 30 something % tarrifs on Tires from China. Just imagine what will happen once people find out their tax dollars are being spent on Chinese solar panels.

It seems you are unable to comprehend what dumping means, thus you should go do your little independent study first before you splurge in non-sense? Isn't that fair? Wait, you don't believe in fairness after all do you? So that's the problem...

The agenda is clear, as stated before. We want the United States to become a global leader in Renewable Energy, create "green jobs" for Americans who are no longer working at the mill, to have a white-collar job force for those who are getting their education in environmental economics, sciences, and technology etc. We need not only become energy reliant, but also self sustaining in the process. We don't want insurgency in this process, nor do we want strategically forced destruction of innovation and creativity. It's not so much a matter of protectionism as it is we all understand the importance of re-industrializing America to re-prosper.

More will be revealed...

[SolarFriend]

9. PR Person for Centron a Right Wing Nutjob?

Centron has yet again been hit with claims that they have used college students for free labor in pretense of providing an internship.

http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/business/20365559-41/story.csp

Interestingly enough Centron's spokes person, Pat Walsh, seems to be directly involved with right-wing nut-job conservatives!!

This link will take you to an Oregon National Guard Youth Challenge article. The National Guard Youth Challenge program is sponsored by the NGYF- Board members include both George W. Bush and Joe Wilson.

http://www.oycp.com/docs/oycp_nr_jones.pdf

Link to NGYF board member list:
http://www.ngyouthfoundation.org/index.php/board

Also, Mr. Walsh is a member of the conservative "Oregon Catalyst" and posts on their blogs frequently:
http://oregoncatalyst.com/index.php/archives/2674-The-Jobless-Despair-Continues-Unabated.html

Convinced Yet??

May I add that the Oregon National Guard was one of Centron's first customers, along with Nike?

Please fellow dems! Take a stance against this atrocity called Centron Solar- They may be Chinese, but more importantly they are smooched through our borders (Where by the way Yingli and Trina are standing to introduce an honest Chinese made product on the US market) by corrupt govt. officials, including right wingers!

Who wins? And who loses?
The people who are aware of Centron's business model, and those which condone it financially and politically run away with the pot of gold- The win.

Oregonians, we lose.