Nate Holden: no bailouts without electric cars

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Los Angeles – November 18, 2008 -- Former California State Senator and Los Angeles City Councilman Nate Holden is holding a news conference, speaking out against American auto manufacturers and in support of mass-production of the electric car. The Honorable Nate Holden believes that the taxpayers should not bailout the auto manufacturers without The Big Three agreeing to mass-produce the electric car as an incentive.

Nate Holden states the following points:

* In 1990, the State of California enacted a zero-emissions mandate, forcing auto manufacturers who sold their cars in the State of California to require that at least 10% of the automobiles that are sold here have zero-emissions.

* In 2002 the Bush administration sided with the automakers to fight the zero-emissions mandate. The Bush administration, General Motors, other U.S. automakers and the oil companies committed sabotage against the American people and the environment. Because of the lawsuit, California will not make any strides in improving our air quality. To continue to build internal combustion engines will result in more photochemical smog and will cause more lung cancer and respiratory disease.

* At about that time, General Motors embarked on a program to deceive the public and the lawmakers. They introduced the EV1 as a revolutionary concept car. The EV1 had all the whistles and bells and if mass-produced, could have saved the automobile industry from its financial woes. At the beginning, General Motors and the other auto manufacturers never intended for the electric vehicle to be a successful program, specifically the EV1.

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Nate Holden served four terms on the Los Angeles City Council (1987 to 2003). He served as Chairman of the Air Quality and Waste Management Committee and eight years as the Chairman of the Transportation Committee. Holden served as Chairman of the Inter-Government Relations Committee and Vice-Chairman of the Public Safety Committee. Holden also served as a Vice-Chairman of the Rapid Transit District (RTD), a member of the LA County Transportation Committee (LACTC), and as a member of the LA Metropolitan Transit Authority (LAMTA).

Holden previously served four years as a California State Senator where he authored and co-authored more than 70 bills that became law. While in the Senate, he served as Vice-Chairman of the very important Public Utilities Transit and Energy Committee."

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[applegrove]

1. The problem with electric cars is the batteries are not yet in existance that are efficient.

That is why McCain offered people $100,000,000.00 to anyone who could come up with a better battery. I don't think we will see masses of electric cars built until we have the battery.

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3. Maybe that's part of the reason he lost

Electric cars are efficient and practical. I have one that uses 160-year-old technology and use it for 4/5 of my driving.

We won't see masses of electric cars built until we confront the effects of 150 years of petroleum-industry propaganda on the public consciousness.

http://www.aspire-ev.com

[applegrove]

4. Good for you for going electric!

:woohoo:

[Kolesar]

2. Was not the "zero-emissions mandate" also based on the hydrogen-fuel fantasy?

Whose backers bet that unproven fuel cell technology would convert hydrogen and oxygen into electrical energy?
Whose backers planned on using wind generation to create hydrogen through the very inefficient process of electrolysis?

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5. Not specifically

It only required that 10 percent of new cars sold in the state by the six top carmakers be "nonpolluting" by 2003.

That would leave California with thousands of empty fueling stations, so Big Petro needed something else they could pump.

[excess_3]

7. Big Tax-xo didn't like electric cars because ...

electric cars don't pay gas tax.


.................................
and .... . then ...
. . .. . . a ...
miracle . .. occurs
................................


both the zero-emissions-mandate
and the electric cars
disappear

[Kolesar]

9. Implying that the oil companies promoted the hydrogen plan?

Is that what you are saying??

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10. Yes

Oil companies are invested heavily in promoting a hydrogen infrastructure.

[madokie]

6. What is the deal with these assholes

its not enough for them to get filthy rich off our backs but they have to fuck with us while they do it. :mad:

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[diane in sf]

11. Electric cars/batteries exist that allow a roundtrip commute, eg the Rav4 EV