Where to live on a changing planet?

[tinrobot]

I'm curious as to which regions of the planet will be the best places to live as the climate shifts.

Obviously, some areas will be more affected than others. Living on the coast will be increasingly hazardous because of sea levels, and other areas will become deserts more quickly than others. Are there any maps or studies detailing the projected climate changes and how they'll affect the different regions of the planet?

[BlooInBloo]

1. I don't know, but the Hobbit Home idea is pretty fucking cool...

http://www.simondale.net/house/index.htm

[Warpy]

2. You'd have to come to terms with living with spiders

and all the creepy crawlies they dine on. It's possible, of course. I treasure my menagerie of spiders because they eat all the really bad stuff.

But yes, digging a hole into the side of a hill and crawling into it for the duration looks awfully attractive.

[tinrobot]

3. Earthships are cool

They're highly efficient and half of the structure is underground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthship

The question remains... where to build one?

[hendo]

6. There was a guy who built some really cool ones in Nevada.

I will need to finda link though.

[hendo]

7. Sorry, make that NM

http://www.sangres.com/newmexico/taos/earthship.htm

And, you are already in the dessert.

[BlooInBloo]

4. I suppose in my magic-pony imagination, it's a well-sealed home...

... and I also like to think of it as being a bit more than a hole in the side of a hill. Rather like universities are a bit more than "a pile of bricks". :P

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. You know what? I fear the invasion of poisonous critters into Maine as

the temperatures becomes more friendly to them. We've never really thought twice about checking behind fallen logs for snakes before stepping over them as we go hiking. It's never been an issue, but I think there will come a day at some point when it will be one.

[Delphinus]

20. I *absolutely*

LOVE

these!!! Spiders and all!

[DAGDA56]

5. I have no doubt that I will have to move some day...Central Florida

will likely be an early casualty; rising seas combined with increased heat. I have no idea where I will go in 2025.

[Warpy]

8. Central Florida will be above water but even more marshy

if you can imagine such a thing. All the projections show the southern tip of the state disappearing completely along with all the beaches, but the central part of the state will still be there.

[nashville_brook]

10. what will happen is all the people in south florida will move further north to central florida

and, the first problems we face will be a social -- overcrowding. this already happened in Palm Bay, where many Homestead (Hurricane Andrew) people moved to after they lost everything. Palm Bay is a near police state. LEO has always been shitty in Brevard, but it's particularly bad in Palm Bay. They were going to be the first city to use unmanned drones to spy on citizens until the FAA stepped in. most of the industry in that area is defense technology, so they were killing two birds with one stone by supporting local business and spying on "potential criminals."

[nashville_brook]

9. hey -- another central floridian here. my family used to have a house in Satellite Beach

and i sold it a few years ago before the hurricanes (this is when i was still in Nashville as per my screen name). i grew in this house and went to the beach down the street (Radar Beach, near Patrick AFB) nearly everyday as a kid.

when i came down to get the house ready to sell i went to all my old beach haunts and couldn't believe what i saw. in the 20 years since i've been gone, what the folks beachside call "erosion" has gotten to the point where there's nearly no beach during high tide -- water comes all the way to the dunes. all the boardwalk stairs were nearly covered up with sand. what used to be a 20+ stair step was now 6 or 7 at most.

they say this is due to "erosion" from the sand being picked up from Canaveral and deposited farther south. and i get that. there's a lot more sand covering up the stairs. but, that doesn't explain the "unusually" high water (unusual to someone who hasn't been there in a couple of decades). the erosion was already threatening some of the older oceanfront condos, and the hurricanes actually did in a few older structures in Indian Harbor Beach.

there's a place at Patrick AFB -- near "Second Light Beach -- where you can see the ocean and the river on the other side from A1A. it won't take much for this sliver of land to be totally submerged.

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. I heard that the ** family bought their compound in Paraguay(?) because projections showed

that it would be relatively unaffected in terms of climate change.

[Dead_Parrot]

13. Silly fuckers couldn't even get that right.

I wonder what house prices are like in Patagonia?

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Interesting, because I swear that the post I'd read about the ** junta had a

map of that type but showed that area as blue and unlikely to change much.

Oh well, I could be having a memory lapse. LOL

[Dead_Parrot]

15. If you find it again, post it up

I haven't seen any projections that don't involve most of S. Am turning into a giant desert, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there - it would be interesting to have a look...

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. I'm pretty sure it was postedin this forum... not sure when, though. Maybe a search for

the Bush family compound might bring something up? (And probably show me as having a really bad memory after all.)

[TexasBushwhacker]

17. Well, keep in mind that map is how much temps will rise ...

not how hot it will be. The reason the temperature will rise so much in equatorial SA is because of rain forest destruction. Even so, why would the ** family move to Paraguay when they can afford to live in Hawaii, which is likely to stay quite hospitable? Sure its expensive, but they can afford it.

[Delphinus]

21. Arrest, possibly?

And, if the waters do rise, would Hawai'i be safe?

[Dead_Parrot]

22. Yes, but a shift of a degree or two will totally fuck an ecosystem

Look at the pine beetles in Oregon. Amazonia will go down the toilet not because the land will in capable of sustaining plant life, but because non of the life that's there is equipped to handle the change: Once it's finished burning, I'd expect something like the Serengeti to spring up - just grasses and a few trees (and hopefully full of big-ass bugs with no predators, at least for his bit).

As for islands, although they suffer less of a change (or at least, it happens at a slower rate) they tend to be short on resources: Hawaii, for instance, still gets over 70% of it's electricity from gasoline (And I'm sure even the Dumbass-in-Chief knows how that's going to pan out), and they have to import damn near everything else: Unless he's got a serious hard-on for pineapples he's not going to be a happy chappy.

Delph's point about finding somewhere where they won't string his sorry ass from a lamp-post the instant he gets off the plane is also a good one. Unless he can learn Kyrgyz or Burmese, he's pretty much hosed.
:nopity:

[tom_paine]

25. It may well be he was more concerned with living next door to his pal, Rev. Moon

and having their private army of maniacs close by in case they needed to team up.

You know, like Bushies and Moonies have teamed up so well at the Washington Times.

[pscot]

18. The Sahara is supposed to green up

as rainfall patterns change. Now is the time to get your Sahel Ranchette. Don't wait until it's too late, and speculators have gobbled up all the best parcels like they did in Montana. We have staked out thousands of exclusive Sahel Ranchettes, along the former shoreline of beautiful Lake Chad, the garden spot of sub-Saharan Africa. It was once beach-front, and it will be again. Manufactured homes and doublewides are perfectly OK.Just put down roots in one of our Lake Chad ranchettes and wait 'til the rains come. Don't miss this opportunity. Act now. By the time Miami is under water, it will be too late.

[ChazII]

19. Understanding the Ups and Downs

of underground housing.

http://static.monolithic.com/plan-design/belowgrade/index.html

Get the kinks worked out and I would go for an underground home.

[slackmaster]

23. Greenland

Once it's warm enough to grow wine grapes.

[Muttocracy]

24. went to a seminar about predictions for climate change in my area

by a university scientist who specializes it. The global circulation models used for large scale predictions work at really large areas (pieces of continents), and scientists are currently working on scaling them down to regions within countries, etc. Precipitation, cloud cover, terrain, etc. can make a big difference on smaller scales so it gets harder to do accurate predictions.

Anyway, long story short was that over the next century it will get warmer and wetter here, eventually feeling like temperatures like in the Carolinas. So I won't have to retire in the south, the south will come up to me!