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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:07 AM
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Move Over, Metal: A Big Idea for Offshore Wind
http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/05/02/move-over-metal-a-big-idea-for-offshore-wind/

Sometimes the race toward clean energy is tripped up by politics. Other times, by nuts and bolts. Or steel.

Offshore wind power is supposed to be the great white hope of renewable energy. Out of sight, offshore wind farms could theoretically supply as much electricity as the U.S. currently produces with coal, gas, and nuclear plants. Britain fancies itself the “Saudi Arabia” of wind power, given its abundant offshore wind resources. So far, though, that’s translated into just under one-half of a regular coal-fired plant. (And things aren’t getting any better this week.)

What’s the holdup? Lots of things. Offshore wind costs more than regular, onshore wind—which already costs more than traditional power sources. Getting transmission lines from offshore platforms to the electricity grid has scuppered loads of offshore wind projects. There’s another holdup—building offshore wind platforms means bidding for the same construction materials that are needed for a lot of other things, raising costs and delaying projects.

But what if offshore wind developers were to end-run the obstacles? Britain’s New Civil Engineer reports this month that wind-power development companies, including Germany’s E.On and Denmark’s Dong Energy, might have a solution: concrete instead of steel. At a swoop, that would eliminate the need for pricey steel and all the supporting cast needed to plant it in the seabed. Says New Civil Engineer:

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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:26 AM
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1. Concrete?
How? Steel can be coated can't it?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 10:34 AM
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2. concrete construction normally uses plenty of steel
???
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 11:21 AM
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3. Years ago I remember the 'concrete people' pushing concrete for building a space station.
This has that same kind of semi-serious 'let's say something outrageous to get folks talking about concrete' PR feel to it.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-03-08 02:33 PM
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4. This is probably one of the worst articles ever on wind
Nearly every single point in it is incorrect. Starting with the flat out lie about "half a coal fired power plant."

there are several different shallow water foundations, and the choice depends on the type seafloor that is present at the site. One type of foundation uses concrete partially, and another is a hollow concrete structure that is floated out and then sank at the site. The monopile that is pounded in is used only in sandy bottoms like the MidAtlantic Byte off the east coast of the US.

The "flavor of the day" technology referenced are experimental deepwater systems; they will be of use to countries or regions (ex: west coast US) that don't have shallow water resources.

Current shallow water (to 60 feet) technology takes one day to install a foundation and one day to mount the nacelle and rotor. I used part of their quote and searched the New Civil Enineering website and can't find the article this is supposedly based on.

The WSJ under Rupert Murdock shines with a new light, a putrid green sickly glow...
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