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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:03 PM
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Popular Science - Innovation of the Year - Nanosolar Powersheet
I don't remember seeing this here. My apologies if I simply missed it.

http://www.popsci.com/popsci/flat/bown/2007/green/item_59.html
Green Tech

Nanosolar Powersheet

The New Dawn of Solar

Imagine a solar panel without the panel. Just a coating, thin as a layer of paint, that takes light and converts it to electricity. From there, you can picture roof shingles with solar cells built inside and window coatings that seem to suck power from the air. Consider solar-powered buildings stretching not just across sunny Southern California, but through China and India and Kenya as well, because even in those countries, going solar will be cheaper than burning coal. That’s the promise of thin-film solar cells: solar power that’s ubiquitous because it’s cheap. The basic technology has been around for decades, but this year, Silicon Valley–based Nanosolar created the manufacturing technology that could make that promise a reality.

The company produces its PowerSheet solar cells with printing-press-style machines that set down a layer of solar-absorbing nano-ink onto metal sheets as thin as aluminum foil, so the panels can be made for about a tenth of what current panels cost and at a rate of several hundred feet per minute. With backing from Google’s founders and $20 million from the U.S. Department of Energy, Nanosolar’s first commercial cells rolled off the presses this year.

Cost has always been one of solar’s biggest problems. Traditional solar cells require silicon, and silicon is an expensive commodity (exacerbated currently by a global silicon shortage). What’s more, says Peter Harrop, chairman of electronics consulting firm IDTechEx, “it has to be put on glass, so it’s heavy, dangerous, expensive to ship and expensive to install because it has to be mounted.” And up to 70 percent of the silicon gets wasted in the manufacturing process. That means even the cheapest solar panels cost about $3 per watt of energy they go on to produce. To compete with coal, that figure has to shrink to just $1 per watt.

Nanosolar’s cells use no silicon, and the company’s manufacturing process allows it to create cells that are as efficient as most commercial cells for as little as 30 cents a watt. “You’re talking about printing rolls of the stuff—printing it on the roofs of 18-wheeler trailers, printing it on garages, printing it wherever you want it,” says Dan Kammen, founding director of the Renewable and Appropriate Energy Laboratory at the University of California at Berkeley. “It really is quite a big deal in terms of altering the way we think about solar and in inherently altering the economics of solar.”

In San Jose, Nanosolar has built what will soon be the world’s largest solar-panel manufacturing facility. CEO Martin Roscheisen claims that once full production starts early next year, it will create 430 megawatts’ worth of solar cells a year—more than the combined total of every other solar plant in the U.S. The first 100,000 cells will be shipped to Europe, where a consortium will be building a 1.4-megawatt power plant next year.

Right now, the biggest question for Nanosolar is not if its products can work, but rather if it can make enough of them. California, for instance, recently launched the Million Solar Roofs initiative, which will provide tax breaks and rebates to encourage the installation of 100,000 solar roofs per year, every year, for 10 consecutive years (the state currently has 30,000 solar roofs). The company is ready for the solar boom. “Most important,” Harrop says, “Nanosolar is putting down factories instead of blathering to the press and doing endless experiments. These guys are getting on with it, and that is impressive.” nanosolar.com —MICHAEL MOYER
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:06 PM
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1. Lets all hope this is series and not a fraud article....
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:43 PM
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2. For realse!
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:21 PM
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4. It's been bruited about for some time now.
But first we need to see volume production actually happening.
And secondly we need to see the long term field performance of the product.

The Aussie TiO-Ruthenium dye panels unfortunately failed on both counts IIRC.

Slivercells also look like a technology that's failed at the starting gate. Now two years behind and still not happening.

Not trying to rain too hard on anyone's parade, but I've decided to adopt a wait and see approach when it comes to solar power.

And I also want to know what the storage technology is going to be. That is something we seriously need to begin exploring and implementing since a good many of our energy alternatives are intermittent in nature.

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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:32 PM
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5. They claim they're "Designed to last"
http://www.nanosolar.com/Designedtolast.htm
Product reliability has always been our top design priority. Our panels are rigorously tested to achieve a durability compatible with our 25-year warranty.

In fact, we test our products under much harsher conditions than mandated by official certification standards. We also expose them to harsh outdoor environments such as the Arizona desert and the Antarctic:



Accelerated lifetime testing is possible through specialized equipment that performs many –40°C to +85°C heat cycles per day, that exposes solar cells to intense UV light, and that exposes them to intense humidity. This has made it possible for us to study potential degradation mechanisms at accelerated time scale during product development.

During production, we continuously perform tests on randomly sampled production output in the form of accelerated lifetime tests under simulated high-stress conditions in indoor environmental chambers.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:34 PM
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6. We should find ways to harness and store power from Lightning Bolts, Ocean Waves, and TIDEs
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:43 PM
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7. Capturing lightning has been a dream for many years ...
... and will remain a dream for many more.

Waves and tides are great, if you live by the ocean.

The Sun shines virtually everywhere.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 09:50 PM
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8. lighning bolts. Fergedit. Wave and tide we're doing.
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 09:50 PM by TheMadMonk
One I like is a type of linear generator. A string of magnets is hung from a floating buoy inside a stack of coils on the sea floor. As the magnets move up and down with the waves a current is generated in the coils.

A major advantage of this design over many others is that it is almost completely insensitive to freak conditions that have a bad habit of smashing less mechanically flexible installations to pieces. And it will generate power over a wide range of conditions.

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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 08:59 PM
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3. I'm on their waiting list. And this is the first I've heard of their efficiency rating.
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 08:59 PM by Gregorian
Thanks! They don't even answer emails. All I know is I go off-grid in about two weeks. Only temporarily. About a year. But I'm doing it without photovoltaics. I'm waiting for the new stuff to come out. I'll be (hopefully, if I've done my calculations properly) charging a bank of batteries with a generator every night. And using batts for my amps during the day. It's a silly setup, but it beats no power at all. I've got to have my DU. :)
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 11:52 PM
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9. Right on.
Why are you going off the grid, just to see if you can?

30c a watt is amazing. My question is, are these things more/less efficient spacewise than the traditional solar cells? There is a theoretical maximum of 1000 watts per square meter, we've barely touched...If hope they are not less efficient spacewise...
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 09:44 AM
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10. I just bought an amazing piece of land.
It's big, so the power company will need to engineer a power line. And the cost for photovoltaics is still high enough (along with battery prices) that it's better to go with the power company. That's according to solar designers. But I really do anticipate getting off grid. Oil won't be $100 per barrel very long. And I don't want to see the proliferation of nuclear.

900 Watts per square meter is how much sunlight hits a square meter. It's just how much sun we get.

As an example, I'm on the coast. And a bit north of San Francisco. My peak sunlight hours amount to about 4.5-5 hours. Not the best. New Mexico gets about six.

Historically, energy availability is increasing in difficulty to obtain. First there were trees. Chop them down, and there's your heat. But the population continued to grow. Trees only replace every century. Then there was oil. Nearly unlimited energy, but it had to be pumped out of the ground. Now we're looking for another source. It's going to be a diverse array of sources. But none as easy as before.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 11:45 PM
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14. Fun stuff. I'm jealous.
I think you've go the right idea, the way things are headed.

Yeah, the energy future is going to be interesting. And I agree there is going to be some belt tightening, not just from energy being spendy but from other converging factors. But I thought that 900 per m^2 watts was a theoretical maximum, and that panels aren't that efficient. I could be wrong. 900 watts a meter would be awesome.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-01-07 12:41 PM
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11. From the article ...
...

Nanosolar’s cells use no silicon, and the company’s manufacturing process allows it to create cells that are as efficient as most commercial cells for as little as 30 cents a watt. ...
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 07:20 AM
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12. Great Article!
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 07:21 AM by suziedemocrat
I especially loved the interactive explanation at the link! Thanks.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-02-07 02:56 PM
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13. Nanosolar Web Site, not much there but some information.
Edited on Sun Dec-02-07 03:02 PM by happyslug
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-03-07 02:57 PM
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15. Investors cannot buy shares in Nanosolar
One of the investors is a "US Army" fund.
http://www.nanosolar.com/investors.htm
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