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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:42 PM
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:58 PM
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1. Might get just as strong as Dean. In fact, I would say it has a 50% chance of reaching Cat 5.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 06:53 PM
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2. Now a hurricane.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 07:06 PM
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3. That was quick...
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 07:33 PM
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4. TD to Cane in 27 hours. Very very quick.
A Cat 3 by tomorrow evening is not out of the question. If this hits Honduras, it could rival Mitch (which killed 12,000).
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 12:25 PM
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5. And now cat-2
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 01:15 PM
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6. The 2:00 update has it at Cat 3.
This thing is really starting to look like a monster.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 02:22 PM
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7. Wow. Reminds me a bit of 2005.
Except by September of 2005 we were already up to K.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 02:26 PM
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8. Actually we were on M by September.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 03:58 PM
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9. 5:00 PM update - Cat 4.
And it's just heading into the warm water:

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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 04:02 PM
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10. That is not warmer water, it is just deeper warm water.
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 04:02 PM by RL3AO
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 04:12 PM
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11. So does that mean the mixing from the hurricane's passage
won't cool the surface as much as it would in shallower water? Does it imply there's more thermal mass to pick up heat from?

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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 04:36 PM
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12. Pretty much.
That map is a Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential (TCHP) map. It just shows how much energy is in the water.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 05:10 PM
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15. Thanks. I found an SST image from Friday


It looks as though the water in front of Belize is nice and toasty.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 04:47 PM
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13. Uhhh. What the hell is this crap?
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 05:04 PM
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14. Tropical Storm (70mph) to Cat-4 (140mph) in 24 hours. Rock on.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 07:18 PM
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16. And thar she blows
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 07:20 PM by GliderGuider
From the 8:00 PM update:

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 165 MPH...270 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. FELIX IS A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE.


From Category 3 to 5 in 6 hours. This thing is a total monster.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 07:41 PM
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17. Felix sets a speed record
Felix has set a record for the fastest intensification from being named as a tropical storm (5 am yesterday) to Cat 5 (8 p.m. today): 39 hours!
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:31 AM
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18. Cool. Wonder what'll happen in the next 39? nt
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 11:18 AM
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19. That's alotta energy in the atmosphere. Combine that with Arctic Summer Ice Data
and the dots connect quite scarily.

Now, I recognize that I am a lay person, and anyone who wants to correct any technical/scientific error I have made would be most welcome.

I also see that this is something of a vast oversimplification, but here goes:

It seems to me that, in terms of Total Atmospheric Energy alone, our melting icecaps and glaciers are trying to compensate and find pre-industrial equilibrium. But we are running out of coolant to slow the reaction that the Gaian atmosphere is broiling towards.

I just wonder if, as the Artic Summer Ice tapers to zero, and the land-based ice in Antarctica and Greenland continue to melt, that realtive cooling effect that is actually restraining Total Atmospheric Energy from getting worse than it is will be tapering also.

I recognize that certain physical laws govern hurricane formation, and I have heard that, at sustained Cat 5 winds of 175+ the eyewall blows itself apart and the hurricane weakens as it reforms the eyewall, so I wonder if a hurricane with sustained winds of 185+ is an impossiblity based on atmospheric physics and therefore we will just see more storms rocket up to Cat 5's and stop?
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