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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 07:14 PM
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Worry about bread, not oil
By Niall Ferguson
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 29/07/2007
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/07/29/do2901.xml

The great demographer and economist Thomas Malthus was 23-years-old the last time a British summer was this rain-soaked, which was back in 1789. The consequences of excessive rainfall in the late 18th century were predictable.

Crops would fail, the harvest would be dismal, food prices would rise and some people would starve. It was no coincidence that the French Revolution broke out the same year.

The price of a loaf of bread rose by 88 per cent in 1789 as a consequence of similar lousy weather. Historians of the Left like Georges Lefebvre used to see this as a prime cause of Louis XVI's downfall.
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Malthus's key insight was simple but devastating. "Population, when unchecked, increases in a geometrical ratio," he observed. But "subsistence increases only in an arithmetical ratio."

In other words, humanity can increase like the number sequence 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, whereas our food supply can increase no faster than the number sequence 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. We are, quite simply, much better at reproducing ourselves than feeding ourselves. (Emphasis mine)
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Doesn't nature find a way to keep itself in balance - when one species (without man's interference) gets too plentiful, wouldn't there be an outbreak of something that would kill off a large part of the population, thereby bringing balance back to it? Or am I just dreaming that up?

This probably belongs in the Peak Oil forum, but it doesn't see as much traffic as over here.
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 07:15 PM
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1. Can I get some fries with that Mc Solar Roof, please?
:D
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 07:19 PM
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2.  There are many folks standing in line to scare me, so there's a number system now.
You pulled ticket number 2-41.

Keep your eye on the counter, you have six seconds after it appears, or else the next one in line gets to scare me.:-)

MKJ

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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 07:36 PM
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3. {lol}!
Thank you - just what was needed!
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 07:40 PM
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4. The Quiet Earth
would not be quiet for long, should the silly "modest apes" reign collapse. As an artificially planetwide species we act much like a virus. Ma just needs to shrug, and we're fossil fuel for the next civilization that rolls around. I'd say the raccoons are going to have to duke it out with the descendants of domesticated dogs . . .
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 07:42 PM
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5. The proverbial "Four Horsemen."
Yes, when a species gets too numerous and outstrips its resources, the rebound effect brings it crashing back down. No exceptions. Humans think they can cheat the system, and maybe they can for a while - but in the end, they're subject to the exact same laws. War, pestilence, famine, etc.
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jdlh8894 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:10 PM
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6. but in the end, they're subject
Shouldn't that be "we're"?
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 08:36 PM
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7. Speak for yourself. ;) n/t
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 09:27 PM
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8. Thanks.
I think I'm glad to know I didn't dream it up - but ...

Guess this proves Nature really does have intelligence.
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