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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:43 AM
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Falling U.S. Wages Threaten Consumer Spending
Source: Bloomberg

Ninety-one percent of people in the U.S. labor force have a job. That may be the extent of the good news for these Americans, whose incomes tell a darker story.

Take-home pay, adjusted for prices, fell 0.3 percent in August, the third decrease in five months, and personal income dropped for the first time in two years, the Commerce Department reported last week. The declines followed news from the Census Bureau that median household income in 2010 fell to $49,445, the lowest in more than a decade, and the poverty rate jumped to 15.1 percent, a 17-year high.

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While policy makers from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke to President Barack Obama focus on cutting unemployment stuck near or above 9 percent since April 2009, the widespread stagnation in wages may offer a better explanation for the failure of economic growth to accelerate two years after the end of the recession. Workers’ ability to negotiate higher earnings won’t return until the job market strengthens, and flagging confidence has raised the risk that consumers may retrench.

Inflation-adjusted weekly earnings have fallen for six consecutive months, dropping 1.8 percent in August from a year earlier, a pace not seen since the 18-month economic slump ended in June 2009.




Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/falling-wages-threaten-u-s-rebound-as-consumers-may-retrench-on-spending.html
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:49 AM
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1. "Ninety-one percent of people in the U.S. labor force have a job."
Edited on Mon Oct-03-11 08:50 AM by ixion
Note to bloomberg.com: Using a blatant lie as an opening statement is no way to get people to give an article any credibility.

There is a jobs problem, and it will most certainly affect spending. But the problem is even more dire than they represent.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:44 AM
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5. Might be time
with our two tiered society to start working that "living-wage" thing again, you think?

Seriously though it's amazing how often they talk of consumer spending, but never mention the cuts in wages and benefits, even though they have a direct association.

It's a little like they don't mention unfair, one-sided, corporate and wealthy benefiting, union-manufacturing-exporting trade agreements, that only benefit the rich, in creating the huge unemployment we now have, even though it is the single most direct factor in creating the unemployment, and to a very large extent, they CHOSE to do this, on both sides of our very narrow political party structure.

I had a boss that once said whatever you do to the lower classes, it'll eventually come around and kick the rich in the ass. I guess it goes hand in hand with the saying "money is like manure. When it's all in one place, in a big pile it just stinks. But if you spread it around, it serves as fertilizer, making the economy grow."
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 08:59 AM
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2. Duh! Couldn't see that one coming. n/t
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:05 AM
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3. and what percentage of the 91% has a full time job with benefits that pays for all basic needs?
:shrug: just wondering
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Harmony Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:09 AM
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4. Not even close to a third of that
I wonder, if Wal Mart decides to increase its pay for it workers, what effect would it have on the economy? It seems to that the rest of the industry would follow.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:39 PM
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10. 1 out of 3 Americans are working for Walmart wages -- !!
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 09:48 AM
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6. And the solution is to import shoppers to boost the economy. No discussion about declining wages.
Instead we'll import shoppers along with the consumer goods. It is impossible to make this stuff up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x5013510
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 10:16 AM
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8. well, over 80% of the US Chamber of Commerce "jobs plan" is being pushed by Obama, I was
Wondering when they would get to this part of the Chambers plan (increased tourism revenue), all that is really left now is for him to green light the pipeline like he promised them and he will have nearly their entire agenda well represented, he will still have to bargain away a few pieces of progressive window dressing (mostly centered on a progressive way to pay for it), but I am sure they will get everything they want in the end.

Check and see if there is other stuff they wanted that he or others in his employ have not endorsed (I think tax amnesty for overseas corporate tax cheats still has to be put into some form of legislation), I want to see if I missed anything
Link Tho COC "Jobs" demands: http://www.uschamber.com/sites/default/files/110905_jobs_letter.pdf
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:39 PM
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11. 35% increase in productivity over last decades -- NO INCREASE IN WAGES ... !!
We need slow down and short/brief strikes to begin with --

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 10:04 AM
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7. Imagine that! nt
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 11:34 AM
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9. That's a "no shit" headline n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 12:40 PM
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12. Why was this taken out of Late Breaking News?
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 03:48 PM
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13. 91% have jobs is a bald faced lie
because it does NOT include people who have given up looking, people who are working part time for lack of full time jobs, and people who are working in jobs below their skill level for lack of jobs in their usual skill level category.

On top of that many people who HAVE jobs are scared shitless of getting laid off and their spending habits are seriously curtailed.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 04:17 PM
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14. Those who are no longer looking for work are not considered part of the work force
Look up "labor force participation rate"

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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-11 04:32 PM
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15. That is laughable because...
many of these people want to work but have given up since they tried like hell and came up empty. When and if economy improves, these people will be back in work force.

What does it matter how the government defines "work force"? I prefer the real life situation better.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 07:43 AM
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16. I didn't make up the LFPR. But, I agree with you.
Check out John Williams' Shadow Government Stats
http://www.shadowstats.com/
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-11 02:46 PM
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17. Things are going perfectly according to plan
Grover Norquist's plan, that is.
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Remember Me Donating Member (730 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-11 11:11 AM
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18. Just read the subject line --
Ya think??

LOL. What amazes me is that it took so long for someone in the press to notice.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-11 05:51 PM
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19. And wages won't go up until unemployment goes way down.
With so many out of work and looking for jobs, employers have zero incentive to increase wages.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-11 11:29 PM
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20. How true
The job/wage situation is reminiscent of the Reagan Recession of the early '80s.
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