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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-21-09 07:36 AM
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Why capitalism fails
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/09/13/why_capitalism_fails/?page=1

This is a really interesting read, and the last page gives his solutions. He was a capitalist that saw its inherent failings, and refused to buy into short slogans. He actually sounds like a scholarly Kondratieff wave type guy.

Almost every paragraph of this is quotable, so I just picked the first four...

Since the global financial system started unraveling in dramatic fashion two years ago, distinguished economists have suffered a crisis of their own. Ivy League professors who had trumpeted the dawn of a new era of stability have scrambled to explain how, exactly, the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression had ambushed their entire profession.

Amid the hand-wringing and the self-flagellation, a few more cerebral commentators started to speak about the arrival of a “Minsky moment,” and a growing number of insiders began to warn of a coming “Minsky meltdown.”

“Minsky” was shorthand for Hyman Minsky, a hitherto obscure macroeconomist who died over a decade ago. Many economists had never heard of him when the crisis struck, and he remains a shadowy figure in the profession. But lately he has begun emerging as perhaps the most prescient big-picture thinker about what, exactly, we are going through. A contrarian amid the conformity of postwar America, an expert in the then-unfashionable subfields of finance and crisis, Minsky was one economist who saw what was coming. He predicted, decades ago, almost exactly the kind of meltdown that recently hammered the global economy.

In recent months Minsky’s star has only risen. Nobel Prize-winning economists talk about incorporating his insights, and copies of his books are back in print and selling well. He’s gone from being a nearly forgotten figure to a key player in the debate over how to fix the financial system.


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clarence swinney Donating Member (673 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:21 PM
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1. CAPITALISM MISUSED IS PROBLEM
Since 2001 Capitalism was used for GAMBLING.

Jobs were not created. Manufacturing facilites were not built.

It was betting $4,000 with $100 in pocket.

AIG covered all bets even tho they did not have necessary funds to cover losses

It was straight GAMBLING.

I bet Red you bet Black.

Useful Capital builds.Improves. Standard of Living.

cswinney2@triad.rr.com

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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 09:58 PM
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3. we go through cycles
When we are prosperous and everything is working, we become lax in standards and regulation. That of course causes greed, and everything then goes to pieces. When everything goes to pieces, we become very conservative financially and growth suffers and we have downturns.

That's the meme.........

At the end there is a bit TRICKLE UP suggestion.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 08:37 AM
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4. At least read the article before responding, will ya?
According to Hyman Minsky (and, by extension, the author of the article) the kinds of developments you describe are not an aberration of capitalism, but rather a natural tendency of the system during periods in which the memory of economic collapse recedes and a desire for greater leverage and risk-taking evolves.

Furthermore, these trends are hardly limited to post-2001. They started during the 1970s, then took off in earnest after Reagan was elected. And yes, they continued largely unabated during the Clinton years.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:39 AM
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5. Please, this has been going on for far longer than the last decade.
The conversion of Wall Street into a casino was done in the 80s and the three subsequent administrations have each made it worse.


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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-22-09 04:42 PM
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2. Amazing, isn't it
how often "contrarians" turn out to be right.
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