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lams712 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:36 PM
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For people who are economists or economics students: WHO ARE SOME OF YOUR
FAVORITE ECONOMISTS???????????????


I'm just curious in seeing who in the great canon of economics has influence here at DU.
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:46 PM
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1. Benjamin Graham
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-04 10:50 PM
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2. John Kenneth Galbraith
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-04 01:46 AM
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3. who here is familiar with Karl Popper
and what do you think of his work?

...since lams712 started this thread, thought I'd ask a question too.
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lams712 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 02:42 AM
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4. No, I'm not familiar w/ Karl Popper....
...do you recommend any books by him????




Some of my favorite economists include John Kenneth Galbraith, Paul Sweezy, Robert Reich, and Robert Kuttner. There are others including Karl Marx, John Maynard Keynes, and Thorstien Veblen.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 06:28 AM
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6. go here
for a basic introduction

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/popper/

He's considered a philosopher, but his impact goes across disciplines.
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lams712 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:57 PM
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9. I just found out that ...
...the one of my favorite economists, Paul M. Sweezy died last Friday at the age of 93.

He was a well respected American neo-Marxist economist. He was not dogmatic in his approach and he roundly criticized the USSR throughout the years. Though considerd a Marxist, in 1999 he won the Veblen-Commons Award given by the Association for Evolution Economics, a non-radical, but liberal institutional economics organization.

He is probably best known for his book, a collaboration with Paul Baran, entitled "Monopoly Capital--An Essay on the American Economic and Social Order" published in 1966.

As Business Week magazine one said of Sweezy (& Baran, who died in 1964): "...a brand of socialism that is thorough-going, tough-minded, drastic enough to provide the sharp break with the past that many left-wingers in the underdeveloped countries see as essential. At the same time they maintain a sturdy independence of both Moscow and Peking that appeals to neutralists. And their skill in manipulating the abtruse concepts of modern econmics impresses would-be intellectuals.....Their analysis of the troubles of capitalism is just plausible enough to be disturbing."


Paul Sweezy was an intellectual giant who will be sorely missed.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 07:14 AM
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7. He is one of the greatest scientists
of the 20th century. Im more familiar with his demarcation theory.

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:15 AM
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5. I am neither and economist nor a formal student of economics. But
I find the topic intriguing. I had economics back in college, found it boring. In hindsight, it was because of the few theories they taught. Now that I am into on a self-study, enrichment basis, I find it facinating and not at all boring.

That said, I am currently reading up on Nikolai Dmyitriyevich Kondratieff, Joseph Alois Schumpeter and Thomas Robert Malthus.

I don't have a favorite, although I thoroughly enjoy reading Paul Krugman.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 10:20 AM
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13. Schumpeter-Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy-1942 is a great
work - but do not buy Ayn Rand's interpretation of it - He does NOT say that central planning is justified because there were no more innovations to be made in 1942 - so all that remained was deciding on the most rational method for organizing each industry without all the waste of competition, marketing, and of course profit.

What he does say is that innovation has become organized corporate R&D - and that solialism in this would will produce innovation, indeed will perhaps produce as much innovation as Capitalism with its reliance on the entrepreneur.

Again the key - innovation - does not go away - it is just a question - do we really need cut-throat capitalism to get innovation?

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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 06:18 PM
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15. Yeah, I've noticed the tendencies to twist some of the ideas of
early economists into some bizarre mutation.
I've noticed an increased interest in "Institutional Economics" which is something I'd like to take a closer look at in the near future.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 07:16 AM
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8. John Maynard Keynes!!!

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stevebreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 12:48 AM
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10. Dean Baker Mark Weisbrot
a must read is SS the phony crises.

They were among the few who predicted the stock market drop, and the fragility of the federal surplus.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 07:08 AM
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11. Not exactly an economist, but Garret Hardin
sure turned a lightbulb on for me way back when I was an undergrad. It's impossible for me to think about unregulated free markets and libertarian economics like Cato espouses without thinking about The Tragedy of the Commons.
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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 07:05 PM
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12. www.cbpp.org
www.ctj.org
www.fairtaxes4all.org
www.ombwatch.org
www.taxpayersforcommonsense.org
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 10:30 AM
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14. MIT's Paul Samuelson has to be on folks list of great economists
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 10:32 AM by papau
and not just because I studied under him! - He really really was great- as in the Nobel laureate internationally noted for
establishing the agenda of modern economics and developing the scientific tools to analyze its components, and a recipients of the National Medal of Science this year.

Dr. Samuelson, Institute Professor emeritus, was recognized "for his fundamental contributions to economic science, education and policy for nearly 60 years, establishing both the agenda of modern economics and scientific standards for economic analysis of a wide range of problems including social security and the public debt, welfare and international trade."

The Swedish Royal Academy, in its award citation, said, "Professor Samuelson's extensive production, covering nearly all areas of economic theory, is characterized by an outstanding ability to derive important new theorems and to find new applications for existing ones. By his contributions, Samuelson has done more than any other contemporary economist to raise the level of scientific analysis in economic theory." The academy also noted that Professor Samuelson has "rewritten considerable parts of central economic theory and has in several areas achieved results which now rank among the classical theories of economics."

I think one is well served by the purchase of his famous text, Economics, which first came out in 1948. Its 17 editions have produced more than 3 million copies in English and more than 40 other languages. The book was the first to explain to beginning students the principles of Keynesian economics, which Professor Samuelson has long advocated. But unlike some Keynesians, Professor Samuelson has maintained that the private market also has an important role, along with government, in promoting a healthy economy.

He won international renown with his first major work, Foundations of Economic Analysis (1947) in which he confronted the contradictions, overlaps and fallacies in the classical language of economics and found unification and clarification in mathematics. He wrote that his fellow economists had been practicing "mental gymnastics of a peculiarly depraved type," and that they were like "highly trained athletes who never ran a race." He did not claim that mathematics would cure all the ills of economic analysis, but he insisted that mathematics was essential.

And he was a nice guy!

:-)

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WheresWaldo Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 09:58 AM
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16. Soros and Krugman
good reads. Also a fan of Amartya Sen and Mehboob al-Haq. Sen got the Nobel for Econ in 1998, and al-Haq started the UN Development Report.
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togiak Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:46 PM
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17. Laffer and Canto
for being so wrong yet still sticking hard to it.
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woodstockjimi Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:48 PM
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18. i am oblivious to how to start my own thread...but
i have a really good question about the fair tax issue
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Jim Warren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 01:20 AM
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19. E.F. Schumacher
A Rhodes Scholar in economics, an economic advisor to the British Control Commission in postwar Germany, and, for the twenty years prior to 1971, the top economist and head of planning at the British Coal Board.
Then he wrote: Small is Beautiful; economics as if people mattered.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:32 AM
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20. My late father
:D *props to my pops*

He was influenced by Veblen, and Keynes. Galbraith was on his doctoral committee. And in the eighties he tried to get me to read Lester Thurow as a counter commentary to the big push to popularize Milton Friedman.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:38 PM
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22. To your "Pops"
:toast:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:19 PM
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23. and to the son :-)
:toast:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 09:08 AM
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24. while my brother appreciates it
this daughter will join in the toast :toast: :D
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 12:11 PM
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26. My daughters would have a a great time with my error! Let's keep
it a DU secret!

:toast:

:-)
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 10:33 AM
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25. Salin, that was you that shared the thoughts on your father with us in
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 10:53 AM by 54anickel
the Stock Market Watch thread a while ago wasn't it? Sorry, I am bad at remembering names. I remember that discussion very well though.

On edit:

I just went searching, and yes it was you! Feb 5th. It was great to review that thread again.

Another round to you and your father.

:toast:
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 01:56 PM
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27. Yes, that was me
thanks for remembering. :toast:

And to papau... no worries it will be our DU secret ;-)
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lams712 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 06:17 PM
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21. Another person who ranks up there for me....
....even thoughe was not an economist (but did write extensively on economic issues) was Michael Harrington.
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ThJ Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 03:42 PM
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28. Hamilton
Edited on Sun Mar-14-04 03:43 PM by ThJ
Yes, Alexander Hamilton. Perhaps he is not best known as an economist, but I have much respect for his opinions on political economy.
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mastein Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 09:08 AM
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31. Does that include his thoughts on the "swinish masses"?
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Centre_Left Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-04 04:21 PM
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29. Maybe I'm going too far out on a limb since this is DU...
But I would have to say Adam Smith.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-04 07:00 AM
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30. I would suggest that you would find a lot
of agreement on that point.
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Centre_Left Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 05:13 PM
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32. That I'm going far out on a limb?
Or are you saying that other people would agree that Adam Smith is their favorite economist?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:18 PM
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33. If You're Talking About Third-World Economics,
Try Ivan Illich for a perspective out of left field. "Tools for Conviviality," for example. I believe he was a defrocked priest who spent much of his life among the poor in Latin America.

Illich believed that the US economic structure was not right for most third-world countries. He sought low-tech, low-cost ways of production and transport that could be used universally within poor countries. He even criticized Western education as inappropriate.

Truly an original thinker. Even if you don't agree 100%, he's a good foil for globalist/neoliberal economics. Here's some of his writings:

http://www.preservenet.com/theory/Illich.html

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