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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:17 PM
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CNBC sowing the seeds of resentment and selfishness..

More cheerleading the fake outrage of the "what about the 92% of us that are paying our mortgage?"

And now they have a new one to add. "What about us who own more than one property. What about the landlords?"

WHAT ABOUT UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL?

Sowing seeds of resentment and envy towards people who are falling on hard times in this country is not only a divide and conquer scheme. It's EVIL!

I understand that CNBC has to do this because they are a FAKE financial channel but what about the country?

Do the media whores and the conservatives really want the country to collapse? Maybe they should use their selfishness and their self-pity neurons to re-think this plan.

If the country fails the American people will run flag poles up your asses. And that would be bad for YOU! Not to mention it would really hurt!

I really think the conservatives are trying to start a civil war.

Bad idea!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:19 PM
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1. Apparently none of them would be running over to George Bailey's house on Christmas Eve.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:21 PM
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2. I just heard the same talking point on Bloomberg.
Only this guy said he thought the 8% of us who are behind on mortgage payments is more like 3% or 4%. Musta come to him in a dream.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:23 PM
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4. There must be a talking point machine running somewhere.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:15 PM
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12. There always is.
We've seen it for years with the TV pundits and in other 'news' outlets. All of a sudden they all start saying the exact same thing from the exact same point of view. If one uses 'class warfare' as a buzzword they all do. Over and over, day after day, for years and years now. If that's not enough to convince you this is orchestrated, think about the phenomenon known as the Friday news dump. Always on cue, never anybody who scooped all the rest of them.

At least we've seen the last of the Friday news dump. Now that Obama is President we'll start seeing all the bad news released on Monday.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:21 PM
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14. they are called "paid trolls"
right wing PR machines charge big money to ensure a coordinated message
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 09:33 PM
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20. Do you remember hearing them say that when the Wall Street bailout was done?
Not so much as I recall.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:22 PM
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3. CNBC financial programs appear to be in cahoots with the wealthy/Wall Streeters
and other Repubs. This is particularly dangerous as many people watch the financial programs and by controlling the sentiment and attitude, it appears that they are committing a crime of national proportions. I would like to see an investigation. They are not covered by "freedom of speech" in my opinon with their ties to the financial sector. Yes, they are fanning the flames of rioting. This falls into the realm of National Security issues.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:25 PM
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5. Lately it sounds like their in cohoots with Rush Limbaugh.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:37 PM
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9. The group that listens to and seeks financial help might not listen to Rush.
Rush appeals to perhaps a portion of them but I think his group tends to not have College degrees for the most part. I could be wrong but I say for the most part.
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The Brethren Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-20-09 01:25 AM
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19. I'll second that.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:29 PM
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6. I would say to these morons that they should be glad that they have jobs that
support their mortgages and be thankful that the gov't. is making an effort to keep your equity safer by keeping housing values from falling even more. Selfish isn't the word for it!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:32 PM
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7. Did you really expect anything else? No wonder why things are so
Edited on Thu Feb-19-09 01:32 PM by The_Casual_Observer
screwed up. It's a matter of minding your own fucking business.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:36 PM
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8. Update: CNBC "The American people are going to have a Boston tea party"

"The American people don't think it's a sin to be properous"

I hope everybody knows that the market won't recover until these people shut their mouths.

If you have a 401k that you are hoping survives, you better start emailing CNBC and demanding that these idiots stop destroying your life.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 01:55 PM
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10. Update CNBC.. Investors have to take "personal responsibility" for getting ripped off.

That was Michelle. HAHAHA! Man is she going to get some hatemail over that one.
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fumsm Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:04 PM
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11. Worse than ever
I especially like when they have the nitwit thieves on MSNBC spewing shit like they know something. Their just trying to protect what they stole. That jerk on Scab in the morning got to be the biggest asshole on the air at that time, which is saying a lot considering faux and friends.
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 02:16 PM
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13. CNBC = The Lying Their Asses Off Channel
And I agree that they are manipulating the markets to hurt Obama (i.e. the American people) and therefore going far beyond the bounds of ..."journalism."


Total scumbags.


Flagpolls meet assholes!

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summer borealis Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 03:03 PM
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15. When some freak you know spouts the "92% are paying" line ...
ask him if we have a problem with abortion. (Being an empty-headed moonbat, he'll say yes!)
Then tell him more than 99% of pregnancies do not end in abortion.
No problem, right?
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 09:32 PM
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16. I saw that ... it's disturbing
The clip is up on their website, titled Bailout Backlash

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#29288463

Starting at about 2:30 there are some faint reasons offered for why the mortgage bailout isn't so terrible. Too little too late ... it's more exciting to rake muck, right?

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 10:36 PM
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17. I don't think that man was faking that comment.
I think he meant it. The other thing is CNBC has some really unprofessional people, that man being one of a very poor pack of commentators.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-19-09 11:00 PM
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18. Angry rich revolutionaries!
I saw it. It's horseshit. People who have made millions and billions on ripping off the poor, the vulnerable, and the middle class are now worried about people getting help? The only reason that dirtbag had somewhere to go yesterday was that Paulson bailed their asses out. His comments are disgraceful. There is no Chicago mercantile exchange without the American people in stable financial condition. So he can go on jerking himself off on TV. Because when the people with pitchforks come, they'll be looking for him.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:04 PM
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21. Appealing to our Lowest Common Denominator; PLS also see,
if you haven't already, Adam Curtis's brilliant doc, "Century of the Self" (http://c-cyte.blogspot.com/2008/01/must-see-century-of-self-by-adam-curtis.html ).

For many decades, conservatives have been using psycho-technologies to manipulate us. We cannot hope to combat it without understanding it.

From an earlier post (w/ author's permission):

Below is Part 4 of an excellent BBC series documenting how, beginning in the 1920's, Freudian theories gave rise to public relations techniques that have been used to uncover irrational, often self-centered or petty motivations of whole populations, so as to either cater to or manipulate them.

(Note, the video is a bit long, but the info is fascinating and important, and the visuals and audio are well-edited, with lots of cool archival stuff. If you can't spare the time, here's a cursory summary of some of the main ideas below.)

These psychoanalytically-derived techniques have been used not only by businesses in designing or selling products but also by politicians (and, I might add, by religious leaders -- see, e.g., Brands of Faith) in marketing themselves.

Some using these techniques believed they were helping to bring about a more democratic system in which the consumer or voter was "king." But the point of a "focus group" is not to hear our considered opinions on any given topic but rather to discern the more primitive desires and fears we might not admit to if asked but that often, with or without our awareness, drive our behavior.

After decades of immersion in the P.R. resulting from these techniques, we've gone from seeing ourselves as exploited by business interests to -- rightly or benightedly -- viewing the marketplace as a main source of identity support and fulfillment.

But our democracy has to some extent been reduced from an electorate actively undertaking organized action to make the world better for others as well as ourselves to a relatively disunited, passive agglomeration of consumers who secretly feel entitled to prioritize gratification of their every self-centered whim. ('Splains a lot about my sig. other.)

We feel we are free, but in reality, we've been enslaved through our unconscious fears and desires. We all kinda knew that, but the documentary provides fascinating details about how it was done, as well as insight into the implications for our future.

You can see the other parts of the series on the Internet Archive or Google Video.

On a somewhat related subject, I'd like to recommend the recent New Yorker article, "Twilight of the Books," on the effects of the rise in TV watching and relative decline in reading. Among other things, it describes studies suggesting that proficient readers may think differently than people who rely more on visual communication. While both kinds of thinking are probably valuable, it appears that, generally, visual communication involves thinking oriented toward graphic, functional-narrative or emotional content, while reading facilitates abstract reasoning and an ability to compare and contrast subject-matter based on a wider array of kinds of logic.

Interesting to think about in connection with other studies about TV. As I wrote in a previous post (analyzing the Smith/Cohen cover video of Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit"), "We all live in an ever more fully-saturated mass-media environment that continually urges us to consume and invites us to flee consciousness above all. Studies have shown how much TV has in common with both addiction and brainwashing – see here, here, and here. TV is unusual in that on the one hand, the brains of people watching it appear much more inert than usual, with their critical faculties turned almost completely off, while on the other hand, they are nonetheless uncritically absorbing the commercial and other messages being transmitted."
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-09 11:05 PM
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22. K'd and tried to R, but too late.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:19 PM
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23. The Gangs of New York.
CNBC and all the right-wing propaganda stations are working overtime to divide us along racial lines, The real war is between the classes. In the movie, The Gangs of NY, hard times and ethnic differences caused the gangs to fight each other. Their rich overlords sat back and watched in amusement. It wasn't until the rich became collateral damage that the government stepped in to stop the fighting. CNBC promotes racial division because the alternative is a popular uprising against the rich.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 12:28 PM
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24. That was Rick Santelli. And his point is valid.
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 12:48 PM by SlowDownFast
He may not have stated it as eloquently as he should have, but what he's saying is true - that the folks who bought houses/McMansions with ARM loans (with hardly any money down) while not able to afford a higher changing rate should not be "bailed out" with taxpayer money.

Trusting the gov't and watching "Flip This House" and failing to read the fine print is 1/2 of the reason we are in this mess.

The other half are the pigmen bankers who snake-oiled these loans to the dumbed-down folks who signed the dotted line.

The bankers/politicos who instituted these practices should be jailed, the banks forced to write down their losses (effectively bankrupt) and the folks who thought they were getting something for nothing should get nothing. Anything short of that will not solve this crisis, which in my view means we're fucked because that is unacceptable to all parties except the ones who were fiscally responsible from the get-go.

That may sound harsh insofar as the folks who are having their homes foreclosed on, but that's the harsh reality.

That's what Rick Santelli was getting at. Matter of fact, he's been the first and just about only person on CNBShit that has been telling it like it is. CNBShit and their pumpmonkey shills aren't worthy of him.

...and on edit:

I so fucking sick and tired of both ends this fucked up country - Republican, Democrat looks all the same to me. Pure unadulterated greed and gluttony has got us here: on one side we have the pigmen bankers/CEO's and useless politicos who looted our Treasury; on the other we have entitlement leechfucks squeezing out kids, sucking off the taxpayer tit and never working a goddamn day in their life but they damn sure have a big new flat screen TV from Wal-Mart. Apathy of a crooked gov't, illegal wars and outsourcing have ruled the last few decades. Rosanne, Friends, and Dancing With The Stars was apparently more important than paying attention to the goings on of our nation. Corruption has infected America so deeply that now only some sort of amputation will stem it.

Obama isn't JeezusFuckingChrist. He's in way over his head and is surrounded by the very people that helped start this crisis.

Fuck all of it.

The Universe is about to bitch-slap humanity and we deserve every bit of it.

I've warned others my whole life that repercussions were coming.

I'm buckled up for the ride and I'm having a really hard time sympathizing with those who are not.

Rant Off.

For now.

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