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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:42 PM
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what's the bottom for the stock market?
Someone posted on this a while ago, with some kind of
"rule of thumb" of what the theoretical "bottom" of the
market in any slide will be.
Any guesses on this?
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:43 PM
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1. The last stock standing?
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:43 PM
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2. Don't know what it will be, but I have heard
somewhere in the 3000 range.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:44 PM
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3. 0.
This has been another episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:45 PM
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4. I heard Jim Cramer yesterday say it's about 6000
He said there are still enough healthy, strong companies that it really can't go much lower than that no matter what.

I hope he's right.

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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:52 PM
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8. A month ago Cramer said 8200.

I doubt anyone knows. Even gold stocks have tanked.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:45 PM
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5. Technically speaking, 0...
There's a general rule of thumb that stocks won't decline below a certain multiple of their P/E ratio. When the slide began, I think most people figured that would be around 6,000.

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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:48 PM
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6. If anyone REALLY knew the answer to your question, they'd be in
line to be a BRAZILLIONAIRE!

In other words, as smart as DU'ers, et al are ;-) ..... no one 'knows'.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:51 PM
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7. There isn't one really.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:12 PM
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9. The rule of thumb is capitulation
Everyone is waiting for the stock market to completely capitulate, where everyone gives up hope and sells and then there will be no buyers. The problem is that too many people use this signal, so they don't panic during the really big dips and buy into it. It has caused a really wild ride, but there has been no mass panic, so we hadn't had that signal yet.

Practically speaking, the bottom is going to occur at the exact moment you give up and sell to stop the pain.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:24 PM
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10. Zed
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 01:32 AM
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11. I thought it would be about 5000
but now I'm thinking 0.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 04:08 AM
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12. Stocks declined almost 90% in the Great Depression.
A similar bear market would put us at just over 1400 on the Dow.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 06:20 AM
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13. Someone I respect greatly calls Dow 1000 by the end of 2010
They called the collapse to the month (this October) back in early 2007. They think we're just at the beginning of the tumble, that it's going to be a deflationary collapse due to the large amount of derivatives that still need to be (de)valued, and that the world will never recover to the current level of economic activity because of Peak Oil and ecological damage.

They're my EF Hutton -- when they talk, I listen.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:42 AM
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14. Stock prices are set by magic
So it could go to any low value or any high value and there's just no way to predict it at all.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 03:30 PM
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15. Kunstler predicts 4000
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 07:28 PM
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16. Why would it stop there?
I've never understood any of the rationale for calling a bottom short of a 90% capitulation.
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angryfirelord Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 08:16 PM
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17. Don't listen to Cramer
He has no idea what he's talking about. He only does what CNBC tells him.

A bottom? We've hit a temporary bottom right now, so expect the Dow to bounce around for a little bit. In fact, it has the potential to rally over the next few months. However, for the long-range drop over the next 5 years, 2000 points for the Dow certainly isn't out out of the question.
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