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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:56 PM
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CD rates going up all over?
:hi:

I just received an email notice from my bank stating they are selling CDs for 5-years (6 mos. penalty if cashed early) at the rate 5.25%; a 7 year rate of 5.5%.

Is this going on elsewhere?

If so, where?

Needless to say, I bought a new CD at that rate. The 1% money market rate is sure getting old. Sheesh, $10 a month!? :grr:

:dem:
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:09 PM
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1. I think they suspect that inflation will take hold and...
They will be able to make a ton of money on your money.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 10:39 PM
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2. I've switched to all stocks in my 401k...
...a mix of S&P 500 stocks, small caps and international stocks (stock funds, not individual stocks). Made the new changes on 12/26/03, and I've made over $2300 since. Nothing spectacular, but not bad for 2 weeks...
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 11:31 PM
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3. Just checked a couple of local bank websites, they are all around
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 11:31 PM by 54anickel
2.75 (1000 min) to 3.10 (25000 min) at the 4 year max.

I'd say they are betting on some big inflation coming on with rates going up.
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rapier Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 09:20 AM
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4. notes
that is an very high rate. Almost fishy.

Long term interest rates HAVE TO DROP to keep the mortgage and credit bubbles going. Against that long term rates HAVE TO RISE in the face of a falling dollar and rising inflation.

At this moment I think the first is more important to the powers that be. So this second I expect that perhaps the stock market will have a sell off in order to get people into bonds. That demand for bonds will lower long term rates.

I might change my mind about that later today. I can't predict anything except that we are on the edge of very exciting times
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 10:38 AM
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5. Isn't that an old Arabic curse.
Rapier wrote: I can't predict anything except that we are on the edge of very exciting times

I think it went "May you live in interesting times" or something to that effect.
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rapier Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-04 08:36 PM
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6. The Lizzard King
Edited on Fri Jan-09-04 09:22 PM by rapier
Sorry to hijack Twilights thread.................So today I was right. Bonds soared, (meaning long term interest rates plunged) and the stock market took it on the chin.

The more conspiratorial amongst us bears suggest that they were all set to announce some kind of super boffo fantabuous new jobs number in the 300K range but then they got a call from Easy Al Greenman who said, " kill that report, I need help with the long rates." An so it came to pass since Al, the Lizzard King, rules the world, or trys to.

Ten year bond yields got close to 4% today. Lots of bond people were thinking that a move towards 5% was in the cards. (It still is but Al is down to throwing the levers one day at a time) Al is desperate to get it lower to reignite the mortgage mania. Jobs? they don't care about no stinking jobs. Jobs are for losers, stinking Democrats and assorted trash. What the world needs is ultra low mortgage rates so that we can get back to the springs glorious $2 TRILLION annual rate of mortgage lending to flood the financial system with liquidity.

There is only so much money, liquidity to go around. For weeks it has been flooding into stocks and the touts have been foaming at the mouth saying how glorious our economic future is. Both these thing were driving up long term yeilds. First because of the simple liquidity thing since money was comming out of bonds and going into stocks. The happy story about the strong economy made bond 'investors' if there is such a thing anymore, figurer with a strong economy rates SHOULD go up.

Thus Al go on the phone and said to stuff that fairy tale jobs number.


My interesting time comment wasn't meant to be an allusion, it was meant to be a quote. The only thing I worry about more than the economic system having some kind of collapse is the worry that it won't.

*Lizzard King, as a name for Greenspan is credited to one Buddadropping an occaional poster on the Capital Stool web site and I hear on the radio somewhere out in Lala land. He is an expert at 'forensic market analysis'. The above theory about the call to kill the jobs number and the need to, is pure forensic analysis. Most everyone has heard of fundamemtal and technical market analysis but those are not much good anyomre since it is obvious to anyone watching that the markets are manipulated to a large degree. Not by a small cabal but but rather by a huge Wall Street lead conglomeration of people with common interests. Those being staying rich and getting richer, and running the world to their benefit. For the most part this now includes the totality of the federal government.

The most active forum at Capital Stool. (non political for the most part with wingnuts a small segment, something unheard of amonst bears)
http://www.capitalstool.com/forums/index.php?showforum=7
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