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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:44 PM
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If you have over $100K in an account, learn from these people.
(And my question is, what happens when the FDIC runs out of money?)

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/business/2008/07/12/dcl.finnstrom.indymac.cnn
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 10:47 PM
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1. You wait for Congress to allocate money to bale out the FDIC
That may take a few months, and by the time your money is released it may be next to worthless (i.e. Hyper-inflation may kick in at the same time as the FDIC runs out of money).
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:10 PM
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2. I wonder what I would do if I had money to worry about.
Withdraw it all - so I have stacks of worthless dollars?

I'm concerned about the folks who DO have this much in savings and I'd hate to see them lose it.


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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:47 PM
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4. Foreign currency.
As a hedge against the collapse of the dollar, I've been putting some of my savings in an ETF (Exchange Traded Fund) that tracks the Euro/Dollar exchange rate. While the Euro has problems of it's own, I still think that it's in better shape for the long haul than the US Dollar is, so I've been moving about a third of my savings to that fund. Not a huge amount of money, but a little "just in case" money. The exchange rate has been relatively stable for the last few months, but for a while there the dollar was in absolute freefall against most foreign currencies. My gut tells me that it's going to go into freefall again soon, and my Euro investment should pay off a bit if that happens.
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aspergris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:50 AM
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6. I've done the same
as well as using spot forex.

Cuurency hedging is simple and available to any investor.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:51 AM
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7. Good luck!
I keep hearing money experts talking about putting their money into foreign currency (Euros, mostly). I'm glad you've done that. :thumbsup:
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 08:28 AM
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9. Careful
If the Fed raises rates later this year or early next (as they are likely to do) the dollar will probably rally. Keep a close eye on your foreign currency ETF.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 11:40 AM
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18. The US dollar is the reserve currency of the world's central banks
so the entire globe is vulnerable to this ponzi scheme. The collapse will be worldwide as the U.S. defaults on its financial obligations.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 11:16 PM
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3. The FDIC will guarantee your money, but they don't guarantee you can buy anything with it.
The old barrel full of money for a loaf of bread. If they run out of money my guess is that the government just keeps the old printing presses going.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:30 AM
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5. That's exactly what they'll do and hyperinflation is exactly where we're headed.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:30 AM
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10. sadly
I had a conversation yesterday that led to a few offhand comments being made along the lines of "it's okay, .gov will just print more money, that's what .gov is there for". The sad part is that the person speaking those words was not being sarcastic.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 09:53 AM
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11. Hence, the barrel full of money for a loaf of bread. n/t
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 11:26 AM
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12. Deflation..
.... is the eventual outcome, not inflation.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 02:25 PM
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13. No, deflation is what's happening in the housing...
...market as supply of available homes outstrips the number of qualified buyers due to foreclosures, stagnant incomes, and less job security.

Inflation is what we'll see as the dollar continues to fall and the cost of transporting goods continues to rise.

The super wealthy will swoop in to pick of real-estate across the board at fire sale prices -- not good.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 05:27 PM
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14. I disagree..
Edited on Sun Jul-13-08 05:27 PM by sendero
.... there will soon be a lot less money in circulation than there is now.

Wealth, in the form of housing and 401K values, is evaporating. Jobs will become scarce as everything winds down, and we will have a deflationary depression as people HAVE NO MONEY TO BUY THINGS.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it. It is the most likely scenario, unless the govt prints trillions of dollars, and it can't really.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 10:38 PM
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15. The confusion arises because
people use the words "inflation" and "deflation" to mean different things

If you define inflation as an increase in the supply of money and/or credit and deflation as a decrease in the supply of money and/or credit then we are currently in a deflationary period.

If you when you talk about inflation and deflation you are talking about rising or falling prices then we are in an inflationary environment.

I think we're heading for a deflationary depression. They may try to inflate another credit or asset bubble but they aren't stupid enough to print.


I guess it's possible that if there is some big conspiracy to destroy our currency to introduce the Amero or some new currency printing might be a possibility but that just doesn't seem likely to me.







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Doctor Cynic Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-08 12:56 AM
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8. Swiss Franc.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:29 PM
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16. How about Japanese Yen?
Any ideas on that? :shrug:

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Doctor Cynic Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:07 PM
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17. The Yen has been shadowing the USD for years.
They can't afford to sell too expensive Toyotas and Playstations, so they haven't allowed the Yen to rise too much.

The Swiss Franc is partially backed by precious metals and *may* retain its value.
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