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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:10 PM
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what is the fallout for the Canadian dollar and
say, the currency of Belize, for example, which are both, I think, tied to the value of the American dollar?

Will the Canadian dollar also face the possibility of collapse if the U.S. dollar continues its fall (which is seems is going to happen, at least for another year, from what I've read and seen).

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OrAnarch Donating Member (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:13 PM
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1. same question...
Im hoping it will break away, as their growth and development seems to be. But thus far, it has followed the USD very closely.
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cosmicaug Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 06:37 PM
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2. The Canadian dollar is pegged to the U.S. Dollar?
The Canadian dollar is pegged to the U.S. Dollar? When did that happen?
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 07:29 PM
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3. see, that's why I'm asking the question.
because I don't understand the relationship.

it seems that I've heard the Belizian currency has a 2 to 1 relationship to the U.S. currency...I'm not sure if it is pegged to the U.S. currency or not.

As far as Canada's dollar...I've always heard that the relationship b/t that dollar and the U.S. dollar is also 2 to 1.

So I wonder if someone can educate me a bit.

If you know the answer, I would appreciate it if you could explain it to me.
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cosmicaug Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 11:27 PM
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4. I can only provide the bloody obvious.
Edited on Mon Dec-15-03 11:31 PM by cosmicaug
If you know the answer, I would appreciate it if you could explain it to me.

I can only provide the bloody obvious, sorry (by which I mean that I'm not to terribly knowledgeable). Others here can probably fill you in on the greater implications.

As to pegged currencies, yes some countries do peg their currencies to the dollar (for instance, IIRC, at one point Argentina pegged their currency to the U.S. Dollar --though they don't seem to do that any longer).

Without doing any real research (because I'm too lazy), if you take a look at http://www.exchangerate.com/ you should see that all of the currencies listed there show a non-zero number in the 'Change' column (with the exception of the U.S. Dollar because, for some unfathomable reason, it is comparing the U.S. Dollar to itself). Any such change would denote a currency not pegged to the U.S. Dollar (with the exception of being in the middle of changing --i.e. today it's pegged and yesterday it wasn't pegged or it was pegged at a different level). One of the currencies listed there with non-zero change is the Canadian Dollar.

Compare and contrast with the chart of Central American currencies (which includes the Belize Dollar) that can be found at http://www.exchangerate.com/world_rates.html?cont=Central%20America/Caribbean . Looking at it now, I see a whole bunch of currencies (including Belize's --which looks to have, as you indicated, a 2:1 relationship with the U.S. Dollar) which have a value of zero in the 'Change' column. I suspect all or most of these currencies are going to be pegged to the dollar.

As to the greater implications (this is where others would be of more help than me) I suppose the import/export implications will be similar to those which may befall us with the specifics in each instance being very dependent on who they are selling to and who they're buying from. For instance, if you are selling bananas and tourism to Europeans, the weakening dollar will have an effect (you become cheaper and more attractive seller to Europeans). If you're importing automobiles from the Japanese, it will have an effect (the cars will become more expensive). If, however, most of your imports and exports are to people from the U.S.A., there will be no direct effects. However indirect effects will exist. If the weakened dollar has pernicious effects on the U.S. economy which cause Americans to cut their spending (or conversely increase spending if the Dollar's fall turns out to be a good thing --which I reckon would be unlikely) that will be bad for the country (or good, if it turned out that a weak dollar was a good thing for the U.S.). Naturally the implications of a more realistic mixed import/export market would fall somewhere in between.

And, of course, I would imagine that if the people in charge of the economies of these countries with currencies pegged to the U.S. Dollar felt their current arrangement was no longer beneficial, they'd have the option to change it to something more beneficial (by making their currency stand on it's own, by pegging it at a different rate to the U.S. Dollar or by pegging it to a different currency altogether --or even to a basket of currencies).

On Edit: Expanded on the "bloody obvious" as I decided I may sound like I'm being too much of a smart ass with that phrasing.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:18 AM
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6. Commodities
Where it's going to get interesting is when commodities are going to switch pricing from greenbacks to Euros - I'm thinking specifically of oil.

There was a chart posted awhile back (http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_03/tacinv112603.html) that listed various currencies against gold. Unfortunately, the diagrams are locked into November 21st. It would be interesting to see what they are today.
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cosmicaug Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:28 PM
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7. Sure
Sure, that's GoreN4's thesis. If pricing of commodities (oil) which used to be in dollars changes to something else, it would result in buyers of these commodities getting rid of dollars which could feed into a positive feedback loop of dollar depreciation (as people sell dollars, the dollar drops in value which further causes people to want to sell their dollars in exchange for a different currency or currencies less likely to lose its value, etc. --all of this, meanwhile, serving to discourage foreign investment in the U.S. for the same reason). No doubt this would happen, the question is how significant an effect it would be.

Like you say, interesting.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:10 AM
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5. The Looney is not pegged to the US$.
Moves all over the place. Been watching it
twenty years now; back then it was worth $1.25 USD or so.
It could go back there easy enough.
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