Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How to force Interest rates down - Force Pension Funds to switch to Bonds

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU
 
papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 07:48 AM
Original message
How to force Interest rates down - Force Pension Funds to switch to Bonds
From Bloomberg:

Government rule changes in countries including the U.K. and the Netherlands are forcing pension funds to allocate more money to bonds, whose fixed payments are deemed less volatile than the returns on stocks. The U.S. is considering a similar move as it tries to ensure its Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. doesn't go bust backstopping the pensions of 44 million U.S. workers.

There's no point in governments forcing money managers to buy more bonds if they aren't willing to help out on the supply side of the equation. The U.S. Treasury, for example, stopped selling 30-year bonds in 2001; it's senseless to boost demand for fixed- income securities when they're in short supply without addressing that shortage.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:11 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good gawd the worlds gone mad
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 10:36 AM by xray s
Bush is saying US bonds in the Social Security Trust Fund are worthless, and that we need to buy risky stocks instead, at the same time the government is saying stocks are too risky an investment, so they want pension funds to switch to bonds to save the PBGC :crazy:

Just don't buy US bonds, right?

The gathering economic shit storm is going to be a doozy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 03:29 PM
Response to Original message
2. France, UK , Germany will soon all issue 50 year bonds
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. 50 years is crazy. You put them in when 20 and get them back at 70.
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 09:46 PM by Massacure
A lot of people don't have that kind of money to spend when they are that young.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 09:43 AM
Response to Original message
4. Um don't worry we're making plenty of bonds.
There's no point in governments forcing money managers to buy more bonds if they aren't willing to help out on the supply side of the equation. The U.S. Treasury, for example, stopped selling 30-year bonds in 2001; it's senseless to boost demand for fixed- income securities when they're in short supply without addressing that shortage.
You can invest Pension money in short term bonds as well. We're doing a great job creating lots of new debt that needs to be financed from somewhere.

So let me get this straight the gov wants pension plans to buy more bonds, but not SS?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 04:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Economy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC