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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-24-03 11:13 PM
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PNAC Neo-Con Agenda and Evidence of 9/11 Pentagon Frame-Up
Edited on Sun Aug-24-03 11:32 PM by Dancing_Dave
The most enlightening Democratic Underground discussion I ever saw was the now archived responses to PNAC. PNAC set the agenda for the Bush Administration, and it demanded a new "Pearl Harbor" to "catalyze" the U.S. into a military state bent on controlling the Earth and the Space around it. This arrogant idea has already led to disaster, and we'll be experiencing plenty more disaster until we get off the course that people like Cheney and Rumsfeld have set.

9/11 certainly worked as their New Pearl Harbor. But did they really set it up for that purpose? This article published at Physics911.org http://www.physics911.org/index.php/docs/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=29&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 , along with all the evidence in the footnotes, is meant to show that 9/11 was an organized propaganda spectacle directed by neo-con organized crime in the Bush Administration.

There is really a lot of conflict within the Pentagon these days. Lot's of people working there don't really like Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz's neo-con clique. 9/11 made this clique very powerful, but their disasterous, deceptive and corrupt Iraqi operations have put them on rather thin ice again. Another 9/11 might not work on people who are close enough to see how Rummy works, and would prefer that their office space was not the target of a very high precision incendiary weapon...do they always have to hang around Rummy to make sure they are not on the side of the building that gets hit?

I am trying to include a little wit and diplomacy here, like some of the writers on Europe's most Enlightening site critiquing Neo-Conservatism and it's implementation begining on 9/11/2001, http://reseauvoltaire.net But the conflicts created all over by the Neo-Con take over are serious and disasterous and will just keep getting more disasterous until we finally expose the terrible truth about PNAC and their New Pearl Harbor, and remove them from their extremely powerful positions in the U.S Government today.

These three quotes from Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld should help us keep this discussion focused:

From 9/10/2001:
« The adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. Not the people, but the processes. Not the civilians, but the systems. Some might ask, how in the world could the Secretary of Defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people ? To them I reply, I have no desire to attack the Pentagon ; I want to liberate it. We need to save it from itself. The men and women of this department, civilian and military, are our allies, not our enemies. »
« Remarks as Delivered by Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld »

Early the next morning, 9/11//2001, Secretary of Defence Rumsfeld was again sharing his prophetic vision:
« Inside, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld had some people in to talk about missile defense and the risk that terrorism seen in the past would happen again. "Let me tell ya," he said, "I've been around the block a few times. There will be another event." Two minutes later, a plane smashed into the first World Trade Center tower and proved him right. »
« A day beyond belief for all America », par Calvin Woodward, Associated Press, 16 septembre 2001.

But perhaps he did not really need to be so Prophetic -- as Secretary of Defence, he was in a position to make sure the whole scenario happened just the way the PNAC agenda needed it to!

By that afternoon, the neo-conservative Regime was in place:
« Senator Levin, you and other Democrats in Congress have voiced fear that you simply don't have enough money for the large increase in defense that the Pentagon is seeking, especially for missile defense, and you fear that you'll have to dip into the Social Security funds to pay for it. Does this sort of thing convince you that an emergency exists in this country to increase defense spending, to dip into Social Security, if necessary, to pay for defense spending -- increase defense spending ? »

And until we are fearless enough to expose the terrible hidden truth, this catastrophic Regime will remain in power.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 12:37 AM
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1. A link for comprehensive critique of the total Bush Regime:
For a good comprehensive critique of the Bush Regime in English, check out http://www.oilempire.us
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 12:59 AM
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2. This forum seems a bit slow....LINK TIME!
Edited on Mon Aug-25-03 01:01 AM by Dancing_Dave
To stimulate intelligent discussion, here's another completely exemplary critique of the Ways of the Total Bush Regime, by the Earth's most influential record producer, Brian Eno.
http://new.globalfreepress.com/article.pl?sid=03/08/20/0349205&mode=thread
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 01:40 AM
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3. Path-breaking DU discussion of PNAC and Neo-Con Takeover
Edited on Mon Aug-25-03 01:53 AM by Dancing_Dave
Here's where a number of citizens began to see the light:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID12/3021.html

Understand why a total neo-con Regime needed a "New Pearl Harbor", then go on to understand how they created it. Once enough people understand how they created the needed begining of their scenario, the catastrophic regime will fall. The only thing that it can't control is citizens who completely fearlessly tell the hidden truth.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 07:19 AM
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4. dave...good stuff..
the depravity and guilt of the busheviks is so obvious, yet it seems we spend so much effort to enlist skeptics!
I just say that bush inc is our greatest asset......they bringing on the apocalypse and if it takes the death of the planet to stop them nazis bastards...then 'bring it on!'
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-03 05:13 PM
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5. I think the apocalypse can still be prevented
if enough Citizens can understand how the neo-con's created the New Pearl Harbor that they needed to institute their agenda. When a majority of people who are politically active can understand that, the Bush Regime will fall in the next election.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-28-03 04:56 PM
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6. Great British Anti-Neo-Con site encourages Activism in uncertain times
Check it out!
http://www.911dossier.co.uk/
:think: :hippie: :)
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screwfacecapone Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-30-03 10:32 AM
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7. coincidences and questions
Edited on Sat Aug-30-03 10:37 AM by screwfacecapone
You know, I won't go and say that Bush co planned 9/11, but there are way too many unanswered questions, and coincidences surrounding this event. (Bush's connections to the Carlye group, it's connections to the Bin forgotten family, Saudi Arabia's involvement with al queda, Bush's behavior in the classroom the morning of 9/11, Bush's declaring Osama BIn Forgotten as "No longer a priority", etc). Even if BUsh didn't plan this (I'm not saying he did), him, and/or someone in his cabinet definently knew something we don't. And Bush/CHeny/Ashcroft/Rumsfeild sure as hell ran with the ball Osama gave them.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-03 09:30 PM
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8. Here's the current thread, Dave
Thanks for posting the archived one too:

PNAC Links Archive

That archived thread was compiled from many, many threads we had going before that. There was a lot of discussion and many great links. Grasswire pushed this topic until we all got it, and Will Pitt's articles spelled it out for us.



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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 04:45 PM
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9. Ironically, Physics911.org is experiencing technical difficulties
Until they get their act togeter, you can find most of the evidence of a Pentagon frame-up at this British political activist's site:
http://www.world-action.co.uk/eastman.html
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