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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:44 PM
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Hillary Clinton, 60 Minutes, and the Muslim question
Media Matters for America: Hillary Clinton, 60 Minutes, and the Muslim question
by Eric Boehlert

Less than one second. That's how long it took Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to answer, "Of course not," to Steve Kroft's question on 60 Minutes about whether she thought Sen. Barack Obama was a Muslim. You can time it yourself by watching the clip at YouTube. Still, that didn't stop MSNBC's Chris Matthews from complaining on-air last week that it took Clinton "the longest time" to answer Kroft's question.

Lots of eager, tsk-tsking pundits and reporters agreed. They said Clinton was guilty of "hemming and hawing" in response to Kroft's peculiar, repeated insistence that she make some sort of declarative statement about her opponents religious beliefs. And then when she did, Kroft asked that she do it again. That's when Clinton, looking befuddled by the multiple requests, added some qualifiers to her response, including "as far as I know." What stood out in the exchange was not Clinton's responses, but Kroft's weird persistence in asking a question that Clinton addressed unequivocally the first time, as though he was trying to draw out something she was not saying. Even more peculiar was Kroft's obsession with the Muslim question amid a 60 Minutes report that was about Ohio's shrinking working class and what Clinton and Obama were going to do to try stop of the overseas flow of U.S. manufacturing jobs. (Note to Kroft and the rest of the media: Obama is not a Muslim; Clinton knows Obama is not a Muslim; Clinton does not believe Obama is a Muslim. Clinton made this very clear.)

After parsing Clinton's answer and then conveniently setting aside key sections of it, journalists at NBC, MSNBC, The New York Times, Chicago Sun-Times, Time, The New Yorker, and The Washington Post, among others, declared her response had been wholly deficient. Worse, Clinton's answer simply confirmed that she was running a "slimy," "nasty" contest. It was a "galling" comment; "the sleaziest moment of the campaign."

The only thing sleazy about the episode was the type of journalism being used to concoct a Clinton slur....

The fact is, if you look at Clinton's exchange with Kroft in its entirety, which lasted less than one minute, I count eight separate times in which she either plainly denied the false claim that Obama was Muslim, labeled that suggestion to be a smear, or expressed sympathy for Obama having to deal with the Muslim innuendo. Eight times:

CLINTON: Of course not. I mean, that's--you know, there is not basis for that. You know, I take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn't any reason to doubt that.

KROFT: And you said you'd take Senator Obama at his word that he's not a Muslim.

CLINTON: Right. Right.

KROFT: You don't believe that he's a Muslim or implying? Right.

CLINTON: No. No. Why would I? No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.

KROFT: It's just scurrilous --

CLINTON: Look, I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors. I have a great deal of sympathy for anybody who gets, you know, smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time.

Want to complain that Clinton's answers contained too many qualifiers, while at the same time acknowledging her initial response? That's fair game. And that's what New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof did on March 9, when he noted, "When Mrs. Clinton was asked in a television interview a week ago whether Mr. Obama is a Muslim, she denied it firmly -- but then added, most unfortunately, 'as far as I know.'" But to set aside Clinton's denials and suggest that "as far as I know" captured her entire response is patently dishonest. Yet that's exactly when many media players did....

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We saw the press manufacture a similar Clinton controversy earlier this year over the candidate's comment about Martin Luther King's role in the Civil Rights movement. The Columbia Journalism Review did a good job detailing the media malpractice regarding that story....

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What's disturbing is that either all these journalists failed to read the entire transcript or watch the relevant video from the 60 Minutes interview and therefore were not informed about Clinton's response. Or worse, they knew about her entire response and purposefully left out key phrases in order to portray the candidate in the worst possible light....

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Much more consistent on the whole matter was Matthews' MSNBC colleague Joe Scarborough, the former Republican congressman and foot solider in the 1990s Gingrich Revolution. Scarborough saw nothing unusual in Clinton's Muslim comments. And when MSNBC reporter David Shuster appeared on Scarborough's morning program on March 4, brought up the 60 Minutes comments, and quickly echoed the media's conventional wisdom that the comments reflected poorly on Clinton, Scarborough slyly turned the tables to illustrate the absurdity of demanding absolute answers when badgering an interview subject about somebody else's faith:

SCARBOROUGH: Let me ask you this question, David Shuster, do you think Mika Brzezinski is a Christian? She says she is. Is she a Christian?

SHUSTER: Yeah, I believe she is. But here's the point --

SCARBOROUGH: Hold on a second. You say you believe she's a Christian. You 'believe.' What does that mean? Is she or isn't she? Is she a Christian or not?

SHUSTER: Well look, Mika and I have never actually had that conversation and I've never heard anybody have a conversation about her religion.

SCARBOROUGH: But Mika says she's a Christian. So you're saying you don't know if she's a Christian or not?

SHUSTER: That's fine! To me it doesn't matter.

SCARBOROUGH: Oh, it doesn't matter? So now you're saying it doesn't matter.

Scarborough perfectly proved the larger point: The Clinton-Muslim story was a soggy game of gotcha, and not much more.

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200803110002
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:48 PM
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1. Well, good for Scarborough.
It's unbelievable how they badgered her on that.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:56 PM
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4. I'm one Obama supporter, with a strong interest in media and the press...
who can't turn a blind eye to what I consider a double standard in coverage of the two candidates -- as "Saturday NIght Live" finally highlighted so well. I'll probably need the proverbial flame-retardant suit, however!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:53 PM
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2. Right wing pundits spin bullshit
to make one of our Dem candidates look bad and supporters of the opposition buy it hook line and sinker.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:55 PM
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3. Good Ole Joe got the memo from McCain
Be nice to HC and since then he has been her big defender.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:58 PM
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5. The New Yorker is now piling on Hillary for this non-comment. nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:01 PM
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6. the whole point of bringing it up
was to again throw up the Islamic bogeyman. Muslims are, by and large, peaceful, but you wouldn't know it to hear the MSM tell it.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:01 PM
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7. why was steve croft triangling hillary into answering the question "is obama a muslim or not?"
the one he should've been asking the question of was baracka hussein obama himself. if baracka hussein obama did not give croft the answer croft was needing to hear, he should've needled baracka, not hillary...but since evidently hillary is a woman, baracka is a man, croft is a man, who did he feel the need to needle? the woman, of course. and more than that, if croft was not sufficiently convinced of anything with whatever baracka gave him as an answer why did croft lack the courage to tell him so... or something like, i know you are saying you are a christian but this is why it is hard for me to believe what you are saying and then cite xyz or whatever ... so, like always ... it is the clintons who are to blame, it is the clintons who are scapegoated, it is the clintons fault according to the press that anything, anywhere, anytime happens... and baracka knows how to play that game very well.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:15 PM
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8. Obama knows how to play the press
buhe also knows how to keep a secret. I still believe he was lying about his friendship with Farrakhan and the muslim community.Look at how his head is usually down as his eyes dart from side to side when he lies. Sorry to upset the BO cult but this is what I see.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:19 PM
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9. yes. thank you for reading baracka so clearly. i agree with you.
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 03:20 PM by flordehinojos
and i think that probably somewhere inside of steve croft there was something he felt amiss but he went and needled hillary with it. he should have needled baracka himself.
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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 03:25 PM
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10. well, i'll be damned, it took Scarborough to get this one right?
strange world we live in :)
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